The Lordvessel and the Primordial Serpents (spoilers)

#1Samurai-JMPosted 11/26/2011 2:50:31 PM
From what I've been able to find, there are three possible sequences of events surrounding the Lordvessel and the two Serpents.

1. Acquire the Lordvessel, talk to Frampt, place the Lordvessel.
2. Acquire the Lordvessel, kill the 4 Kings, talk to Kaathe, place the Lordvessel.
3. Don't Acquire the Lordvessel, kill the 4 kings, talk to Kaathe, THEN acquire the Lordvessel.

I'm not 100% sure on #3 as I haven't done it myself, but would this path allow you to Join the Darkwraiths and THEN give the Lordvessel to Frampt, thus keeping both serpents?

It'd be awesome to have the benefits of both serpents. Just a thought.
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#2Taskmaster07Posted 11/26/2011 2:55:49 PM
No, When youb talk to Kaathe, Frampt you tell you are not the chosen one.
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#3Samurai-JM(Topic Creator)Posted 11/26/2011 2:56:23 PM
Taskmaster07 posted...
No, When youb talk to Kaathe, Frampt you tell you are not the chosen one.

Even if you don't have the Lordvessel? Damn, oh well.
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#4Taskmaster07Posted 11/26/2011 2:58:25 PM
Yeah, that sucks, because I wanted to be Darkwraith but I thought Frampt was a much nicer guy.
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#5AoENIACPosted 11/26/2011 3:03:50 PM
No it's possible to have both Frampt and Kaathe available if you don't have the Lord Vessel or have not placed it yet but Kaathe won't sell you anything unless you place it with him, he'll just talk, and as soon as you get it anyway they both won't talk to you except to ask you to place it with them.

The only real decision is whether you want to sell things/break down titanite with Frampt or get the Darkwraith equipment and orbs from Kaathe. Because you can only have one of their services at a time because Frampt offers to eat your stuff before the Lord Vessel but as soon as Kaathe offers to sell you things that means you've already pissed off Frampt and after you get the Lord Vessel, Frampt won't buy your stuff anymore until you place it with him.

If you place it with neither of them they both get mad so far as I can tell.

No matter who you place it with, both endings are still available. From a lore perspective I think they're playing you for a fool because no matter who you side with, they just want to make sure that you're choosing one of the two options and not thinking up a third independent option. You never see their body or tail, I think they're more of a hydra than a serpent.
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#6Orochi_LedePosted 11/26/2011 3:14:31 PM
Taskmaster07 posted...
Yeah, that sucks, because I wanted to be Darkwraith but I thought Frampt was a much nicer guy.


Kaath shows no evil intent or an attempt to use you like most of the story people in the game do. he simply tells you the truth behide why you're being picked. frampt acts nice but he's just pointing you in a direction and telling you to go there.

which one is the nicer one?
#7TheOriginalMaxPosted 11/26/2011 3:18:46 PM
<_<
You can't even FIGHT the 4K without the Lordvessel...
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#8zeppelin312Posted 11/26/2011 3:20:26 PM

^can too

#9aak57Posted 11/26/2011 3:20:38 PM

From: Orochi_Lede | #006
Taskmaster07 posted...
Yeah, that sucks, because I wanted to be Darkwraith but I thought Frampt was a much nicer guy.


Kaath shows no evil intent or an attempt to use you like most of the story people in the game do. he simply tells you the truth behide why you're being picked. frampt acts nice but he's just pointing you in a direction and telling you to go there.

which one is the nicer one?




Everyone likes to say that, but we have absolutely no reason to believe Kaathe either. How do we know that they both don't have agendas?
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#10TheOriginalMaxPosted 11/26/2011 3:29:00 PM
zeppelin312 posted...
^can too

Oh wait, I completely forgot that you could get the key by killing Ingward. My apologies.
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