I always hated the forest and now i know why.. I always did pvp as a strength build, just tried it with my rapier+dwgr ( it's the forest, get over it.) and its soo much better. I love punishing gankers that fail to gank :) kill streak is 25 atm, but a question, is it possible to get the hornet ring witout triggering the sif fight? --- currently playing: Dark souls, AC 3, Dragon's Dogma, Dishonored, Demon Souls.