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localizedfreedo
Posted 2/2/2013 8:14:31 PM
HoustonBoy98 posted...
Sethrothaurion posted...
HoustonBoy98 posted...
Sethrothaurion posted...
localizedfreedo posted...

We clearly don't have any SSFIV players here.


*raises hand* >_>


you play fighting games and dont know what rushdown is?

X_X

Son I am dissapoint


Actually, it's my favourite tactic. I was never any good at comboing so my main damage came from ridiculous mix-ups and cross-ups. Do you play Street Fighter?


I play it on occasion yeah

It's not my fighting game of choice
I went to EVO for Mortal Kombat

i also play a tad MvC3


We need to play in mvc3 sometime haha. I have one of the best akumas east of the mississippi. Nothing on wong's, obviously, but still a very sharp character.

As far as rush down goes, yeah, I know exactly what the tracer probably does when used correctly. One tends to think of Juri - it simply wasnt an acceptable answer to just block her and wait for a pronounced opening. When used correctly, she didn't -give- you one. You had to just wait for a dive kick that was just wrong and dragon punch her for trade so you could have some space and try to zone her out of her game space again.

I imagine the tracer shares much of the same functionality when not used like a noob. Pressure them with a couple of slashes, half circle, quarter stamina, full circle, step, stamina dump, etc. Even blocking they're facing bleed damage, and you can't roll forever. Aside from a well-timed or lucky parry, they're left with one real option - pick a time to trade and regain my spacing. The thing about that is that a failure in attempting to do so spells a magnificent gain of advantage for the tracer user.
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HoustonBoy98
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/2/2013 8:26:46 PM
i am NOT a good mvc player lol
i just picked the game up like last week
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TonberryPunch
Posted 2/2/2013 8:47:45 PM
Bloodbite Ring and Reinforced Club laughs at gold tracer spam.

Bonk

Bonk

Bonk
AngryOldFeral
Posted 2/2/2013 8:50:24 PM
HoustonBoy98 posted...
AngryOldFeral posted...
I understand the concept of the zoning strategies of fighting games being applied to Dark Souls (especially prevalent with spears or great scythes utilizing dead-angles) but how exactly does one utilize Gold Tracer as a proper tool to apply a rushdown tactic?

In right-hand, it feels kind of spammy but in the off-hand it kind of keeps you stuck in combos that're too easy to counter/parry, or easy bait for a BS. What exactly makes this weapon so special?


3 main ways in this game to escape rushdown

blocking, parrying, rolling.

blocking being the obvious common one.
rolling next common.
parrying being least used

blocking. nothing i can do about that. someone chooses to just sit there and turtle a rushdown, there isn't much you can do in this game about it.

Rolling. yeah i can easily catch people off the invicibility frames for a hit.

parrying. easy to avoid by doing proper rushdown


blocking therefore is the largest issue.
giving a rushdown weapon the bleed property allows you to be able to constantly pressure even people using turtle stances. even with the stupid glitch that lets you roll the bleed damage it is still pressure that will eventually force them into a different position


Oh, okay. I use those tactics with the Lifehunt Scythe. I adopted it to deal with modders with infinite health. Basically staying on the attack so even if they're trying to turtle it out, they catch bleed damage and their 999999999HP amounts to dick.

How does that moveset not drive you insane with the Gold Tracer? :P
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PhaerusDkS
Posted 2/2/2013 9:56:39 PM
I really think the tactic that you guys are describing is not new, and has been around for a while long before the gold tracer.

Good discussion though.
MutePrint
Posted 2/2/2013 10:12:00 PM
they discovered the new tactic of attacking
HoustonBoy98
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/2/2013 10:19:38 PM
smh
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HoustonBoy98
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/2/2013 10:20:15 PM

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PhaerusDkS posted...
I really think the tactic that you guys are describing is not new, and has been around for a while long before the gold tracer.

Good discussion though.


Please tell me where I said the tactic was new

in fact. I even remember saying the tactic is about 25 years old
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Fo_lc_us
Posted 2/2/2013 10:20:05 PM
It's not really new, it's just the Tracer has bleed (which the falchion lacks) and range (which the PG sword lacks).

This only applies to curved swords really though. As for other weapons that attack fairly fast and has bleed you have...

the kats...

BarbedSS...

and some other odd weapons I can't remember.

If they added a long spear that applies bleed and can be buffed with poison resin, that would be even more fun.
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HoustonBoy98
(Topic Creator)
Posted 2/2/2013 10:21:05 PM
Fo_lc_us posted...
It's not really new, it's just the Tracer has bleed (which the falchion lacks) and range (which the PG sword lacks).

This only applies to curved swords really though. As for other weapons that attack fairly fast and has bleed you have...

the kats...

BarbedSS...

and some other odd weapons I can't remember.

If they added a long spear that applies bleed and can be buffed with poison resin, that would be even more fun.


Katanas and barbedss attack no where near as fast as curved weapons
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