How do you feel about 5 teams coming from China in "The International"?

#71mestupkid185(Topic Creator)Posted 7/17/2014 7:47:38 AM
piplupzero posted...
mestupkid185 posted...
I have a degree in English and Literature.

Cool, now go get a real degree ;)


Tell me about it. I plan to go back and get a masters degree in something that will get me a job. Probably business.
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#72anilEhilatedPosted 7/17/2014 8:00:04 AM
To be fair he has a point. I keep being called a racist on the whole Russian business and it's getting incredibly hard to explain to people that Russia is a nation if we're generous and a cancerous tumor on Europe if we're realistic but not a subject to the race controversies (or at least in that way - they have a big ol' history of animosity towards the people who happen to be taken over themselves).
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#73ScarletShinPosted 7/17/2014 8:24:27 AM
WeegeeIRL posted...
ScarletShin posted...
mestupkid185 posted...
I have a degree in English and Literature.


You have a degree in English and Literature yet you don't know that when you pertain people from a certain country you are also pertaining to a race?

Not a very good student, are you?


"French" isn't a race. Neither is "American." How is that difficult to understand?


Yes they are. You've just never encountered a negative stereotype to it. Watch some Russell Peters and listen to him make fun of all sorts of races. Race is a vast discussion with many sub-topics. Geographic location and culture being 2 of many.

mestupkid185 posted...
Graduated with a 3.8 GPA.


...and my hair is longer than yours. What's your point? You score high in tests, but don't know the definition of the word race. Great. I wouldn't flaunt my grades if a single word stumped me even after the wikipedia definition is already in front of me.

anilEhilated posted...
To be fair he has a point. I keep being called a racist on the whole Russian business and it's getting incredibly hard to explain to people that Russia is a nation if we're generous and a cancerous tumor on Europe if we're realistic but not a subject to the race controversies (or at least in that way - they have a big ol' history of animosity towards the people who happen to be taken over themselves).


Russia is a nation. France is a nation. USA is a nation. But when you talk about it's people, or even just a small number of people and generalize them, you're talking about their race. Saying "this Russian sucks" is a single, targeted trash talking, but saying "stupid Russians ruining our games" is being racist.
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#74anilEhilatedPosted 7/17/2014 9:46:15 AM
Observant, you mean. And no, it's not racist - the word gets thrown around as a label a lot but really only pertains to biological differences, not cultural ones. Russian is not a race.
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#75mestupkid185(Topic Creator)Posted 7/17/2014 10:28:11 AM
Race was not a part of the discussion until you made it so scarlet. Posting literal definitions that dont pertain to the context of whats being discussed isnt getting you anywhere. I suggest everyone ignore this guy from now on. I am. To get back on topic, wouldnt it be nice to get a little diversity in TI? ;)
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#76blade6321Posted 7/17/2014 10:33:25 AM(edited)
He clearly meant nationality.

mestupkid185 posted...
Race was not a part of the discussion until you made it so scarlet. Posting literal definitions that dont pertain to the context of whats being discussed isnt getting you anywhere. I suggest everyone ignore this guy from now on. I am. To get back on topic, wouldnt it be nice to get a little diversity in TI? ;)


I'm still waiting on the lads from Eton to get a team together.

Why do we have to suck at esports so much ;_;
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#77GunmaN1905Posted 7/17/2014 10:38:39 AM
Hmm, how can you support EG if they have only 2 real 'muricans guys?
#78ScarletShinPosted 7/17/2014 11:02:27 AM
mestupkid185 posted...
But how do you feel that its more than a 50% chance that a team from china is going to win a tournament with such a title?


Despite sounding like an innocent question, it implies that there is something wrong, or something you feel wrong with "a team from china" winning the TI.

A team from China = Chinese
Chinese [DotA players] = A demographic of players who live in China
Players living in China, following it's way of life and practices = A race

Can't accept that the Chinese are taking this game more seriously because they have the funding for it? Just plain butthurt?

blade6321 posted...
He clearly meant nationality.


No, I meant race. No mistake. Nationality is literally just a label. You could be Austrian, but have Chinese as your nationality, despite not speaking the language, or following much of it's customs. When you come to understand TC's words, you'll see he meant race.

TC is racist.
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#79anilEhilatedPosted 7/17/2014 11:06:06 AM
And you still don't understand what "race" means.
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#80in_zeppelinPosted 7/17/2014 12:10:55 PM
ScarletShin posted...
Despite sounding like an innocent question, it implies that there is something wrong, or something you feel wrong with "a team from china" winning the TI.


this articulates the same gut reaction i had to the topic title; am i supposed to feel some way about more than half of the teams in the main event of TI4 being chinese? or from china or whatever the f***

this topic is a bigger minefield than a techies game though so i'm gonna dip
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