Can you be a werewolf and vampire at the same time? Plus Dawnguard question.

#1aieeeeePosted 7/26/2012 5:03:58 AM
*spoiler for companions*






See, I'm just about to do that Companions quest, Silver Hand is it? So I'm gonna become a Werewolf obviously. Haven't come across many Vampires in the game yet and haven't even started Dawnguard yet. So how does that work? If I'm a Werewolf can I do Dawnguard?

Also, I know you can become a Vampire without Dawnguard. What happens if you're already a Vampire when you start Dawnguard? And what are the differences between being a Vampire or becoming a Vampire through Dawnguard?

No Dawnguard spoilers though please, as far as possible.
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#2infinitexxPosted 7/26/2012 5:11:04 AM(edited)
There's ways to become a normal Vampire/Werewolf, but it isn't really worthwhile. You cannot be a Vampire Lord/Werewolf.

DG makes you into a Vampire Lord, it has a transformation.

You can do one side of DG as a Werewolf. You can start it as a Vampire, but once you get to the point where you must choose sides, you need to have your Vampirism cured to progress on the Dawnguard side of things. Joining the Vampire side will cure Lycanthropy.
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#3aieeeee(Topic Creator)Posted 7/26/2012 7:41:43 AM
Hmmm, ok, cheers. So can you not stay a Vampire Lord after Dawnguard has ended? If you can, then can you become a werewolf as well if you use the way you mentioned?

If not then can you become a normal vampire again and a werewolf?

Also, is it possible to become a werewolf or vampire again after having it cured?

And would you recommend me doing the werewolf quest after dawnguard or what?
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#4Pennywise380Posted 7/26/2012 7:53:39 AM
Becoming a werewolf gives you 100% Disease Immunity, which prevents you from catching Sanguinare Vampiris, the disease which eventually transforms you into a normal 'pre-Dawnguard' vampire.

If you're already a vampire, becoming a werewolf will cure your vampirism. The disease immunity will prevent you from becoming a vampire again until you cure yourself of Lycanthropy. The two states are mutually exclusive, and the only way to be both a vampire and a werewolf at once is via a glitch (I'm not sure how it's done myself).

As for the Vampire Lord form, there are two opportunities during Dawnguard to gain this power. You won't have access to the form through regular vampirism, it can only be obtained from specific characters who will offer to infect you. Having one of these characters infect you will automatically cure your Lycanthropy.

Dawnguard also adds the ability to become a werewolf again after curing Lycanthropy. Return to Aela and simply ask her to turn you again. I haven't done this myself, but various people have reported that this is a one-time offer, and if you cure yourself again she won't be willing to turn you a third time.

So, whether or not you start the Silver Hand quest is up to you. Would you rather be a werewolf or a vampire? Being a vampire is less convenient given the inherent weakness to sunlight, but has a lot more latent bonuses and variety in attacks than a werewolf. You can cure either disease at any time and later become re-infected so it's not a decision worth losing sleep over.
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#5JaxxSCPosted 7/26/2012 7:57:09 AM
Why do people always say no to this question? Just become a vampire and get hircines ring.
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#6aieeeee(Topic Creator)Posted 7/26/2012 8:04:37 AM
What's hircines ring? How does that help?
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#7JaxxSCPosted 7/26/2012 8:09:34 AM
Find the dude in falkreath prison and do his quest.





*Spoilers*

choose to save him at the end.





Hircines ring gives you the ability to turn into a werewolf once a day just like regular lycanthropy but without contracting the disease.
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#8Dagoth-DurrPosted 7/26/2012 8:22:11 AM
^if memory serves, the option to use the ring only works if you ARE a werewolf, but I recall reading somewhere on UESP that if you wear that ring while curing yourself of Lycanthropy via the Companions, you will no longer be a werewolf but may still use the ring to enter Beast Mode.
#9subconsPosted 7/26/2012 9:53:10 AM
According to the ring itself, it actually gives you the ability to transform one extra time per day (you're usually limited to one a day), for a total of two transformations a day. But you need to be a werewolf already.

That's disregarding any glitches though, which I'm unaware of.
#10Fire_Emblem555Posted 7/26/2012 10:08:57 AM
the ring allows for unlimited werewolf transformations but only if you are already a werewolf, as far as i know it doesnt do anything if youre not a werewolf so i really dont think you can be a werevamp
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