So we know a lot of fantasy elements in TES came from Tolkien...

#1SSulivan11Posted 3/18/2011 5:30:01 AM
But where did Tolkien get that stuff?

Was it all mythology (elves have pointy ears and live in trees, dwarves are short with beards and live in mountains, orcs are big and green and are warriors) or did Tolkien actually come up on some of that on his own?

Basically, where do these fantasy elements come from? Was the lure of Tolkien's books the world he created with existing elements, or did he actually dream it up?
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#2ZXR_ReignSlayerPosted 3/18/2011 5:38:53 AM
There are literally more than hundred explanations as to why tolkien's fantasy make up is so popular.

I believe because it is intrinsically balanced. Men have the land, Mer have the forest, and Dwarves have the underground. With this balance you have three extremely different races and cultures, but due to none of the races being in immediate proximity there is relatively peace between the races. Don't know how he thought this up, he just did, and it works.
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#3ZXR_ReignSlayerPosted 3/18/2011 5:39:48 AM
To slightly reiterate I think they just came from his mind.
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#4daveliciousPosted 3/18/2011 5:42:39 AM

From: ZXR_ReignSlayer | #003
To slightly reiterate I think they just came from his mind.


I'm sure they were inspired. I don't want to take away from his creativity... but I'm sure he got ideas from legends about people living underground, or elves in the forests of northern Europe.
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#5DiscernPosted 3/18/2011 5:45:09 AM
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#6SSulivan11(Topic Creator)Posted 3/18/2011 5:47:52 AM
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#7I have no namePosted 3/18/2011 5:50:03 AM
I'm pretty sure Tolkien got most of his inspiration from old english/norse legends, Beowulf and the like. When your an English professor at Oxford you have a lot of time to read ancient stories and daydream.
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#8tuchPosted 3/18/2011 5:53:25 AM
So we know a lot of fantasy elements in Oblivion came from Tolkien...

Fixed. Todd Howard is on record saying that he was heavily influenced by the LotR movies during Oblivion's development. I don't see that many similarities between Morrowind, Daggerfall, and Arena with the LotR.
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#9runner5676Posted 3/18/2011 6:31:21 AM
Tolkien was heavily inspired by Finnish legends. As for who thought up that stuff? Well the world was a different place, it was even more full of superstition. And of course there was no internet or media, tales were told by word of mouth, and exaggerated upon (this is where we get the idea of magical weapons) Throw in a heavy dose of escapist fiction, in the form of songs and children's bedtime stories, and you end up with a generic lore which we have been drawing on ever since.
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#10manbearpig300Posted 3/18/2011 11:09:31 AM
tolkien was the first mention of orcs and hobbits but elves n dwarves have been told about it legends just like giants.

He was admitably drawn in by norse/greek/english mythology with the ring being evil and what not was mainly english myth.