The way you hold and swing daggers kinda bugs me

#21quadruplesword(Topic Creator)Posted 5/4/2011 6:10:32 PM
Maybe you hold the dagger upwards like a sword while standing and switch to holding it down towards your forearm when sneaking? And the only reason why I thought of the in-between-your-fingers stance is because I saw it in other games and just thought it looked cool :P
---
"Scissors are overpowered, but rock is okay." - paper
#22The_OnionKnightPosted 5/4/2011 6:11:58 PM

TheeKingOsiris posted...
Dude, how is this an argument? You guys never play Assassins Creed? Look at the knife fighting. Nuff said.

Skyrim world you'll be fighting giant spiders/dragons and humanoid, Altair/Ezio specialise in killing people, so in general a "sword" hold is better.

Real life, not so pretty, unless well trained...and still not everything will go as planned, like Bruce Lee says "be like water" its flexible, fast and unforgiving.

#23TheeKingOsirisPosted 5/4/2011 6:15:56 PM
How cool would it be if there was a perk tree that allowed you to unlock more knife fighting styles?

I could see you starting out just holding it the basic style, moving on to backwards, even unlocking counters. Perfect for knives. (I just wish they'd allow throwing too).
#24The_OnionKnightPosted 5/4/2011 6:16:43 PM

TheeKingOsiris posted...
How cool would it be if there was a perk tree that allowed you to unlock more knife fighting styles?

I could see you starting out just holding it the basic **** moving on to backwards, even unlocking counters. Perfect for knives. (I just wish they'd allow throwing too).


They should do that for swords too..

#25TheeKingOsirisPosted 5/4/2011 6:22:25 PM
Yeah, I don't think it should be just one way... I'm not say'n I'm juss say'n... if you could unlock different stances? Child please. The best were skilled in all techniques to take down any foe. Which goes back to TC main gripe... daggers were weak/uh... just not right? in previous games.
#26MRoberts88Posted 5/4/2011 8:45:05 PM
TheeKingOsiris posted...
MRoberts88 posted...
TheeKingOsiris posted...
Dude, how is this an argument? You guys never play Assassins Creed? Look at the knife fighting. Nuff said.

AC boards are over there.

Really? *sighs*

I thought we were talking fighting with a knife.

Power vs Speed

I can get inside your attack with a sword if I fight with a knife. Most special forces back in the day fought with a bow and a knife. They used it in every style; throwing, stabbing and slashing. No swords/axes/hammers needed. Those were for the basic, poorly trained army/soldier forces. Look it up. It's a fact.


Yes, really.

I wouldnt call knights poorly trained. The fact is, you have to get within striking range, while I'm swining a weapon that will cut your arms off.
---
Commence ta jigglin'- Jigglebilly
Leader of the Highwayman Faction
#27agentspoonPosted 5/5/2011 3:03:02 AM
RUNNERSHIGH posted...
From: agentspoon | #018
As much as I love logical conversations on GameFAQS is must disagree, you dont fight with a knife. You stab and kill. I dont know where all this "knife fighting" rubbish comes from. Knifes are too small to fight with, once a person is close enough to you strike with a knife then you will be stabbed unless you are a skilled hand to hand fighter as well.

Holding a knife in a reverse grip like the picture you showed gives you a massive handicap. Not only ise the blades reach shortened but you can only slash one way, from right to left if you are right handed and vice versa if left handed.


Not so, you can slash both ways very easily. Further more, holding the knife as I mentioned actually offers you a much greater variety in techniques available to you and in in no way a handicap. The technique is called "snaking" the knife, letting you cut multiple times very quickly and simply. Using a knife is all about economy of movement.

And knifes are not to small to fight with. I'm not sure if you are somehow thinking of clashing them like swords or something, but this is in no way what I'm implying. And if this is indeed what you were imagining, we can stop this conversation now, because arguing my point to you would be a waste of effort. But I hope you're not :)

As for your aversion to the term knife fighting, I don't know what to say. There absolutely is such a thing, whether you like it or not.


Not im not talking about using them like swords.....But I still stand by my comment. You dont fight with knives...You stab and kill. There is no fight, once a person is close enough to you to attack with a knife then he is too close and there is nothing you can do to not be stabbed unless you are a melee fighter as well. And im talking about having years and years under you belt of intense training not a year of karate at the local community centre that most people wave around like they are a master.

It takes a large amount of skill to move the parts of your body away from the knife as well as attempting to strike back. You have you face/torso to move as well as your arms/legs to strike back at the same time when most of the time you will only have a few seconds if that to react when a knife is flying towards you.

I also stand by my comment about "knife fighting" being rubbish that people talk about on the internet and that martial arts movies have glorified like duels in wild west movies.
---
HOLY ****! What is this? Forged in Gods very flames! Do mine eyes tell me lies? A new Elder Scrolls game?
Time is nigh, I must fly, Venture forth on my quest!
#28Deku20Posted 5/5/2011 3:10:23 AM

You guys sound linke your fighting over which is better: Karate or Tae Kwan Do.

Take Bruce Lee's advice. The true master is the man who can use both.

#29GuideToTheDarkPosted 5/5/2011 3:12:22 AM
Knives can slash as well as they can stab. In a game with a combat engine like Oblivion, the slashing motion is more practical, because the game doesn't allow for instant kills (outside of sithis' rose/mudcrabs).
---
Of course the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you--if you don't play, you can't win. -- Robert Heinlein
'Would have', not 'would of'.
#30UnGreatPosted 5/5/2011 3:44:36 AM

Stick em with the pointy end.