Muffled Movement vs. Muffle Enchantment

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3 years ago#1
Last character I made I found dozens of Muffle boots in shops while searching for Waterbreathing gear. Now I'm finding lots of Waterbreathing items but no Muffle boots. Maddening.

Then I remembered that the Sneak skill has the Muffled Movement perk.

Which is better, the perk or the enchantment?
3 years ago#2
From my understanding Muffled Movement is effectively Muffle with a magnitude of 0.5 which is a 50% reduction in sound from armour. Most items with the enchantment (except for unique items) are also 0.5 BUT custom enchanted boots with Muffle have a magnitude of 1 which is a 100% reduction in sound from armour.

So custom-enchanted boots with Muffle are better than the Muffled Movement perk.

However, the Silence perk also gives a Muffle effect with a magnitude of 1.
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3 years ago#3
^ basically.

Not sure that bit about the silent perk is accurate. But it could be.

Predator's grace are light boots that have a magnitude of 1. They are available petty early if you know what you're doing.

Nightingale boots (l.32 and up) have an magnitude of... 32 I think. So that's 3200% silent. I like to imagine that ambient sounds are actually absorbed and that guy you're sneaking up to hears absolute silence before he dies... but that's just me.
3 years ago#4
casimirney posted...
^ basically.

Not sure that bit about the silent perk is accurate. But it could be.

Predator's grace are light boots that have a magnitude of 1. They are available petty early if you know what you're doing.

Nightingale boots (l.32 and up) have an magnitude of... 32 I think. So that's 3200% silent. I like to imagine that ambient sounds are actually absorbed and that guy you're sneaking up to hears absolute silence before he dies... but that's just me.


Nightingale = 35. For what that's worth.

Also, just to correct jammy, predator's grace and Nightingale are the only uniques with 100% muffle.

Everything else here is accurate. 35 is max level... it's possible there's a level you can obtain them, where they are < 1. I don't know.
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3 years ago#5
So in other words I should resume my painful search for the Muffle boots? Taking Muffled Movement or maybe Muffled Movement and Silence would be a waste?
3 years ago#6
Or just go get Predator's Grace. = D
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3 years ago#7
IamI3rian posted...
Or just go get Predator's Grace. = D


If they could be disenchanted I would. But I'm trying to make custom-enchanted armor sets for my character. I would prefer to have an item I can disenchant and then re-enchant whatever I want.
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