The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Aurawhisperer posted...

And as i said before, if you want to talk about racisim, look at the high elves stand point about humans. They are just as bad; worse than the nords.

The Imperial, after the loss of their emperor from the oblivion crisis, has crumbled to what you call a corrupt governer system and the nords are only revolutionizing against them; even though Ulfric is more like going after the throne.

And how does that prooves that SC are better? There is hell of a lot nords fighting for Empire. SC not only don't realize that they are being played but also do not try to find a different sollution. All they do is instead of helping empire to get back up to feet (thus strenghening skyrim) they are weakening both them self and empire for Thalmor to invade.

Though Ulfric is nothing more than a power hungry king that wants the throne and skyrim, still, the Nords have long ago felt threatened toward the Empire.

I mean, do you ever pay attention to the story line? On how the Nords wanted to seperate themselves away from the Empire; all because of the High Elves, who they rivalary hated the most? And now that Talos has been banned, is how the war started to develop before Ulfric killed the king of solitude.

I mean, it started by a revolution before Ulfric came into the picture and told all of Skyrim that they were Nords and they can drive out the Imperial and their long eared friends and bring back Talos; etc etc just for hype. But most of us know that a war was bound to happen whether Ulfric was in or not, all because of the religion ban.

Aurawhisperer posted...

There is no who is better system. Both are corrupt, but I side with the Stormcloaks more. They were founders of Skyrim, and bred it to be a Nord territory; until the Empire stepped in.

And by studying this war 20 times, the Empire is nothing more than a lost leading cause with no proper governer; going basically Martial Law, and try ensuring that they don't lose Skyrim due to supply line that they gain from the land.

You see it that way only if you play as a nord. And not every nord believes in that. Need a better argument.

The Stormcloaks are complete and total idiots, they don't even see what they are doing. Ulfric is an unknowing puppet to the Thalmor and by extension the whole lot of them.

Bunch of racist zealots, nothing more. Remember the Stormcloaks are rebels, they were in the Imperial Army when they lost. How do they expect to beat the Thalmor when they reduced their size by half and only allow Nords into their army (Dragonborn excluded).

The Empire is just biding its time to strike back, joining the Stormcloaks means dooming Skyrim .
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Shaminardrgn posted...

The only real problem siding with the Imperials is that Maven Black-Briar becomes Jarl of Riften.

She is a criminal, she openly works with the thieves guild and bribes officials to 'look the other way'. As for the Dark Brotherhood, well, ANYONE can call them at any time, so never mind that...what the real problem is that she plans to rule all of Skyrim via manipluation and slipping you fat checks to help her out (like, asking you to kill the Skooma dealers, not to stop the production, but so SHE can deal it; she pays you your 'cut' of the money.)

Weakest argument ever. She holds riften in her clutches even if you side with SC. She's allpowerfull