Dovahkiin Vs. Hero of Kvatch Vs. Nerevarine. Who would win?

#211ST0N3W4LLPosted 12/7/2012 7:07:23 PM
RebelElite791 posted...
Sniper_Brosef posted...

by this logic i can say that i stayed in my jail cell and oblivion holes engulfed Tamriel and Dagon won! Your character is destined, from the beginning, to be the champion of cyrodiil...whether you wanted to play it or not is irrelevant


The MQ is canonically attributed to the Hero of each game. Nobody is talking about the MQ. Please stop talking out your ass.

mixedlion posted...

Dragonborn has shouts but the Hero/Heroine's descended into hell and back many, many times to avert the Oblivion crisis. However, Dragonborn did face and defeat Alduin at the end while the Hero of Kvatch needed Septim to destroy the last enemy (while Dragonborn could just do it him/herself).



Dragonborn is the walking ghost of a god, and at the utmost tier of his power would be able to level a mountain with his voice. He also defeated a god. The CoC is a glorified errand boy.


Not to get into it with you again, but do you recall telling me something along the lines of, "The Dragonborn defeated Alduin due to prophesy and will of the Gods, not necessarily due to skill or his own power."? So basically, he didn't defeat a God with -his- power; it was his destiny, and not indicative of anything else.

You also said that the Graybeards were more powerful, and disagreed with my logic, using that prophesy bit. If what you're saying now is true, the Dragonborn could kill the Graybeards, because he's capable of killing a god, or the Graybeards could kill him, effectively meaning that they are more powerful than a god(the Dragonborn), and meaning that they(and the Dragonborn) could be defeated by the other combatants. After all, the CoC endured legions of demons and a demonic god, himself.

Oh, and my vote is Neravarine>Dragonborn>CoC(Hero of Kvatch). Neravarine fought gods(granted, not as powerful as they once were), and endured. He is effectively immortal, bearing centuries of combat experience--having defeated warriors with centuries of combat experience, as well.

Dragonborn: What does being Dragonborn actually entail? Does it grant immortality and immunity to the banes of mankind? Being able to destroy a mountain would be cool, but is he still physically vulnerable?

CoC(HoK): Strong amongst men, if the claim that he is -not- Sheogorath is valid.
#212RebelElite791Posted 12/7/2012 7:53:39 PM
ST0N3W4LL posted...

Not to get into it with you again, but do you recall telling me something along the lines of, "The Dragonborn defeated Alduin due to prophesy and will of the Gods, not necessarily due to skill or his own power."? So basically, he didn't defeat a God with -his- power; it was his destiny, and not indicative of anything else.

You also said that the Graybeards were more powerful, and disagreed with my logic, using that prophesy bit. If what you're saying now is true, the Dragonborn could kill the Graybeards, because he's capable of killing a god, or the Graybeards could kill him, effectively meaning that they are more powerful than a god(the Dragonborn), and meaning that they(and the Dragonborn) could be defeated by the other combatants. After all, the CoC endured legions of demons and a demonic god, himself.


They Beards are more powerful. That's why I said "at the utmost tier of his power." You obviously don't reach that point in-game. The Greybeards are more powerful than the Dovahkiin, and probably most mortals on Nirn.

The CoC killed Daedra, not demons, and had no part in defeating Dagon (not a demon), who was defeated by AkaMartin.
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#213HatchetHoundPosted 12/7/2012 9:49:50 PM
You beat Alduin at the end so you probably get some power from him as well

You don't absorb his soul. If you watch, it goes up into the sky, back to the Great Dragon.
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#214Sab_LiathPosted 12/7/2012 9:52:09 PM
HatchetHound posted...
You beat Alduin at the end so you probably get some power from him as well

You don't absorb his soul. If you watch, it goes up into the sky, back to the Great Dragon.


Yeah, Akatosh sent Alduin to his room without dinner.
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#215TheCanucksPosted 12/7/2012 9:57:38 PM
mintfreshAD posted...
Nerevarine can levitate. That makes half of what the other two can bring to bear redundant. Add to that a much higher potential for enchantment due to the large amount of wearable equipment, and I think we have a winner.


Dovi rides dragons...............
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#216Sab_LiathPosted 12/7/2012 9:59:38 PM
TheCanucks posted...
mintfreshAD posted...
Nerevarine can levitate. That makes half of what the other two can bring to bear redundant. Add to that a much higher potential for enchantment due to the large amount of wearable equipment, and I think we have a winner.


Dovi rides dragons...............


And Hero of Kvatch can run around on top of phyics-defying paintbrushes.
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#217boxdemonPosted 12/7/2012 10:34:42 PM
But the Neravarine beat a god, how could you beat a god? He's also canonically more powerful than Vivec, who apparently flooded Vvardenfel as well as stop a large meteor (The Ministry of Truth) from destroying everything.


Also,The Hero of Daggerfall, Divayth Fyr, and Gaenor win.
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#218RebelElite791Posted 12/7/2012 11:20:22 PM
boxdemon posted...
But the Neravarine beat a god, how could you beat a god? He's also canonically more powerful than Vivec, who apparently flooded Vvardenfel as well as stop a large meteor (The Ministry of Truth) from destroying everything.


Also,The Hero of Daggerfall, Divayth Fyr, and Gaenor win.


Um, lolwhat?

The Nerevarine beat two ex-Gods. Sorry.

And no, he is NOWHERE NEAR as powerful as Vivec.

A) Killing Vivec is NOT canon
B) Gameplay mechanics are NOT lore/canon
C) Vivec f***ing has CHIM, and by Word of God is one of the most powerful beings in existence.

Please learn your facts before posting.
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#219R41NB0W-D45H(Topic Creator)Posted 12/7/2012 11:51:23 PM
RebelElite791 posted...
boxdemon posted...
But the Neravarine beat a god, how could you beat a god? He's also canonically more powerful than Vivec, who apparently flooded Vvardenfel as well as stop a large meteor (The Ministry of Truth) from destroying everything.


Also,The Hero of Daggerfall, Divayth Fyr, and Gaenor win.


Um, lolwhat?

The Nerevarine beat two ex-Gods. Sorry.

And no, he is NOWHERE NEAR as powerful as Vivec.

A) Killing Vivec is NOT canon
B) Gameplay mechanics are NOT lore/canon
C) Vivec f***ing has CHIM, and by Word of God is one of the most powerful beings in existence.

Please learn your facts before posting.


Y'know, I never used to understand why you got so pissy with people in topics like these, but now I think I'm starting to understand. You've explained a lot of these things in this topic, and these peoples' refusal to actually read has made you repeat it, like, four times already. Even I, with my unlimited patience LOL, would find myself growing testy with some of these people.
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#220RebelElite791Posted 12/7/2012 11:55:04 PM
R41NB0W-D45H posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
boxdemon posted...
But the Neravarine beat a god, how could you beat a god? He's also canonically more powerful than Vivec, who apparently flooded Vvardenfel as well as stop a large meteor (The Ministry of Truth) from destroying everything.


Also,The Hero of Daggerfall, Divayth Fyr, and Gaenor win.


Um, lolwhat?

The Nerevarine beat two ex-Gods. Sorry.

And no, he is NOWHERE NEAR as powerful as Vivec.

A) Killing Vivec is NOT canon
B) Gameplay mechanics are NOT lore/canon
C) Vivec f***ing has CHIM, and by Word of God is one of the most powerful beings in existence.

Please learn your facts before posting.


Y'know, I never used to understand why you got so pissy with people in topics like these, but now I think I'm starting to understand. You've explained a lot of these things in this topic, and these peoples' refusal to actually read has made you repeat it, like, four times already. Even I, with my unlimited patience LOL, would find myself growing testy with some of these people.


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Now you know my pain and agony ;____;
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