Completed Soul Cairn mission feels like a slap in the face

#1VeezaraPosted 1/27/2013 11:20:20 AM
One of the first quests I did was to get The Black Star, used it to get my encganting to 100 and make money selling echanted jewelery. I thought I was still good, only trapping bandit, thalmor and a few forsworn souls, and Sibbi Black Briar. When I downloaded Dawnguard I sided with the humans to fight against the vampires. Souls in there talked about how they were put in by necromancers. Is this where I have condemned countless bandits to go? No Sovengarde after their soul has been used up. Almost feels like I should have accepted the vampire's gift. If I have condemned so many already then I can't be much worse than the vampires. Or do not all souls go there if they are trapped?
#2RebelElite791Posted 1/27/2013 11:21:35 AM
Black souls do.

If you didn't realize black souls were used for necromancy, and not the most moral thing before, umm.....yeah....
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#3whiteboygenePosted 1/27/2013 11:26:46 AM
RebelElite791 posted...
If you didn't realize black souls were used for necromancy, and not the most moral thing before, umm.....yeah....


This is the nice version of what I was going to say.
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#4Veezara(Topic Creator)Posted 1/27/2013 11:30:40 AM
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#5Veezara(Topic Creator)Posted 1/27/2013 11:31:56 AM
As i said they were all evil, Bandts and Thalmor. Still the thought of condemning them all for the sake of a stronger weapon. They end up in that hell instead of being able to move on once their charge is used.
#6RebelElite791Posted 1/27/2013 11:34:02 AM
Bandits, evil? I certainly wouldn't say that.

And saying all Thalmor are evil seems to me akin to saying all German soldiers in WWII were evil, which is far from being the case.
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#7TutelarSwordPosted 1/27/2013 11:35:46 AM
RebelElite791 posted...
Black souls do.

If you didn't realize black souls were used for necromancy, and not the most moral thing before, umm.....yeah....


White souls go there too. There are some soul cows and chickens in the Soul Cairn.
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#8OmegaPenguinX13Posted 1/27/2013 11:50:05 AM
Whoa no friggin WAY!!! I also had my enchating done long before Dawnguard was available except after the Soul Cairn I didn't feel bad at all!
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#9nathraxhPosted 1/27/2013 11:58:07 AM
They needed to reinforce the fact that necromancy is evil.

It had been getting kinda-.. kiddy. I'unno, the moans of reanimated corpses and their thanks when someone finally kills them does remind you, to an extent, that necromancy causes a lot of suffering, but it was easy to just say "well, soul trapping's fine, right? It ends quickly."

Necromancy isn't something a guy should just jump into, thinking that it's a morally grey area at worst. It is evil.
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#10NicodaemosPosted 1/27/2013 12:14:19 PM(edited)
From: nathraxh | Posted: 1/27/2013 12:58:07 PM | #009
They needed to reinforce the fact that necromancy is evil.

It had been getting kinda-.. kiddy. I'unno, the moans of reanimated corpses and their thanks when someone finally kills them does remind you, to an extent, that necromancy causes a lot of suffering, but it was easy to just say "well, soul trapping's fine, right? It ends quickly."

Necromancy isn't something a guy should just jump into, thinking that it's a morally grey area at worst. It is evil.


The presentation of necromancers in both Oblivion and Skyrim (or hell, basically all TES games now that I think about it) has been pretty ham-fisted, so I don't see how they'd make their opinion of it any less conspicuous. Unless you're talking about when the player character does it.
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