Freezing during battle, not sure what the problem is...

#1SpideyknightPosted 1/19/2013 8:57:42 AM
My Skyrim freezes during battle, not all battles, it seems to happen after a certain period of time, say 15-30 minutes. Particularly when fighting the gargoyles right after freeing Serana. But really it can happen anytime. The controller keeps rumbling, but the game freezes entirely, I have to ctrl+alt+del out and then reenter to get my controller to stop rumbling. Happens when I use keyboard and mouse, and mouse+nostromo as well, so I don't think it's a hardware issue. I also uninstalled all of my big high res texture packs like SRO, Serious HD, and Skyrim 2k. I run Skyrim Performance Monitor and when I freeze it is not due to a VRAM or RAM issue/limitation.

Which lead me to believe it was mod related. I do have a ton of them, but I use BOSS and sort the rest manually following instructions given on their respective mod pages. So I guess my question is can anyone look at my load order and spot a problem that I have overlooked? Or if you've frozen in battle before how did you fix it? The game runs fine at all other times, it's really just in battles that I have the possibility of freezing.

This is my load order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm
Skyrim Adventurer's Tent.esm
AmethystHollowsMaster.esm
AP Skyrim.esm
BBLuxurySuite.esm
GeneralStores.esm
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
LevelersTower.esm
LiFE.esm
moonpath.esm
Niires Hjerim(esm).esm
Niire's Honeyside(esm).esm
Niire's Proudspire(esm).esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
SPIKE.esm
OdemsAdvCraft.esm
0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(esm).esm
TERAArmors.esm
SexiS.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
HighResTexturePackFix.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
RevampedExteriorFog.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
Dark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
ADV HB-Style.esp
ADV GenStoresPlugin.esp
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Default.esp
Footprints.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp
AlynShirArmor.esp
Artemis Hunting Gear.esp
AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
BBLSspouse.esp
BlackSacramentArmor.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
Cloaks - Player Only.esp
1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp
CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp
Daedric Extra Armor.esp
Darklilith.esp
DemonHunterArmor.esp
Demothris.esp
Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
Dread Huntress Armor.esp
Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
DualSwords.esp
DVd.esp
DwarvenMech.esp
Ebony Samurai Plate Armor.esp
FF7 Bustersword.esp
FF7 Masamune & Souba.esp
FioraArmor.esp
GDRangerArmor.esp
Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp
Ghosu - Project Flintlock - Ammo Addon.esp
Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp
HentaiSuccubusArmor.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
HuntressArmor.esp
Insanity's Dragonbane.esp
Insanity's Dragon Katana.esp
Insanity's Goldbrand.esp
Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp
Insanity's Pale Blade.esp
Insanity's Sorrow.esp
Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp
Jojjos Warglaives.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
KaraByNausicaa.esp
Karliah-MiniByNausicaa.esp
KCEBattleClaws.esp
LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp
Lady of Death.esp
LayerBikini.esp
LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
LustmordVampireArmor.esp
MashupUNP.esp
Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp
Neo's Oriental Dress.esp
Neo's Outlander.esp
Neo's Outlander 2.esp
NewmillerCasualBikiniUNP2.esp
NewmillerShoesUNP.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
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#2Spideyknight(Topic Creator)Posted 1/19/2013 8:57:58 AM
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp
Pushup-Bikini.esp
R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp
R18Pn - Diano Armor.esp
R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp
Ranger's Cape.esp
RogueArmor.esp
Scarves! Skyrim Edition!.esp
Schwertleite Set.esp
SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp
SexyJersey.esp
SilverDragonArmor.esp
Silverlight Armor.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
sword_yamato.esp
Temptressdressv1.esp
TeraArmors-CBBEByNausicaa.esp
TERAArmors.esp
TERA Weapons.esp
TeraCastanicFArmors.esp
TeraHEFArmors.esp
theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp
ThunderBirdArmor.esp
Tonas Oblivion Scarves.esp
3rdEraWeapMoS-lvlList.esp
Witch Elf Armour.esp
TeraHMFArmors.esp
Celestial Armors.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
AgehaArmorCollection.esp
DA_XiNAVRO_BnS.esp
ViceroyInquisitor.esp
Ayumi Set.esp
NewmillerCeremonialRobesCBBE.esp
AdamantineCrystalArmor.esp
AdamantineCrystalCloak.esp
AdamantineCrystalHorse.esp
Ivy Valentine Armor.esp
TribalGlass.esp
VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp
Gatti7Siggy.esp
Gatti4Satsuki.esp
lilithstools.esp
NewSuccubusRace.esp
Nightshade TBBP.esp
Elecp's Vampdress.esp
wjunlady.esp
Lilith.esp
morten.esp
JackshKasumiArmor3.esp
TGLNordArmor.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
tangmodao.esp
zz_GDRAHoods.esp
IA6npc01.esp
AmethystHollowsUpdate.esp
Ank_Castle_Main.esp
BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp
BBLSapachii.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
DA_Skyship.esp
FalkreathCastle.esp
KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp
LimbwoodManor.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
Nightingale Hall.esp
Niires Hjerim.esp
Niires Honeyside.esp
Niires Proudspire.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
VlindrelArmory v2a.esp
WSBP - OcciMale.esp
Babette.esp
Eola.esp
LonelyKarliah.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
LaFemmeLycana.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
Marriable Serana.esp
More Dynamic Shadows.esp
NeutralHjerim.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Predator Vision.esp
ASX_Spells.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned.esp
Phenderix's Magic Evolved - Cleaned - No Perks.esp
SSAPBWK.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
FNISspells.esp
Artifact Disenchanting.esp
enchant4effects.esp
HM Enchanting Unlocker.esp
BatTravel.esp
Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp
SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp
N_43 Hair Pack.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
LunariRace.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
3DNPC.esp
Blaze Of Eventide.esp
multimarriage.esp
BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp
BBLSVisitors.esp
BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp
0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(esp.2.0).esp
0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(Grotto).esp
BBLuxurySuiteClassierDisplayRoom.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp
DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Phenderix Tool - Weapon Edit.esp
LiFEv1.1.esp
Marriage Options Redone (females v1.2).esp
Female Housecarls (lydia,iona,jordis).esp
Camilla+Gerdur+Delphine.esp
NarutoEyes.esp
DarkBrotherhoodPlayerRoom.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp
Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
Pretty Poses And Animations.esp
Pretty Female Idles.esp
Pretty Combat Idles.esp
Celestials.esp
SexiSCupid.esp
SexiSDefeated.esp
WATER.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp
The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp
rcrnShaders.esp
RCRNvolumetric.esp
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#3FolstarPosted 1/19/2013 9:08:27 AM
Why do you use so many bad mods?
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#4aamfirdausPosted 1/19/2013 10:05:11 AM
I experienced some. But I didn't know for sure the cause. Too heavy scripting could be one of them. With many mods of yours, it is no wonder the game will sometimes freeze.

You can try only core and some support mods. In my case, reducing graphical effects, like shadow and antialiasing help. If you think the game freezes because too many graphical effects while battling, reduce max particles in Skyrimpref.ini. My number is 250 (default 750), and the downside is not that visible.

Have you tried following STEP Guide? If not, you'd better do it.
#5pyro_buntaPosted 1/19/2013 10:14:09 AM
Get rid of mods you don't need anymore.
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#6Spideyknight(Topic Creator)Posted 1/19/2013 8:42:33 PM(edited)
Bad mods? Which ones? It's really just a bunch of armor mods. I could probably cut it down to 100 or so. But why would armor mods freeze my game during battle? That doesn't makes much sense to me. I don't disbelieve it though. I'll try STEP, I haven't tried it, heard it was quite the process.
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#7AudioSlime17Posted 1/19/2013 9:31:41 PM
Have you used TES5Edit?
#8ToxicatePosted 1/19/2013 9:31:59 PM
Is that honestly your load order? Are all of them active? While some mods are meant to be placed below a bashed patch, I highly doubt Dance of Death is one of them. Why do you have all three .esps from Cloaks of Skyrim? Only one is supposed to be active.That's not even all of it, but the list is so long :/

Not only is your order all over the place, but you have mods unnecessarily active. You're even using alpha mods that are even cited to be unstable, or just outdated mods in general.

I'd suggest getting rid of a majority of your mods. Mostly races, armor, and weapons.
#9R0N1N187Posted 1/19/2013 10:56:49 PM
Well, at least we know its a mod problem. Try uninstalling all of them then re-installing 10-20 mods at a time.
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#10Spideyknight(Topic Creator)Posted 1/21/2013 9:56:51 AM(edited)
I see, didn't really look at it when I copy pasted it. That is pretty close to it though. Appreciate the heads up on Cloaks, I didn't know it was only supposed to be one. I do use Mod Organizer that isolates mods and uses a kinda "virtual" directory. That mod list is probably what I was using before I installed mod organizer, but I just installed mod organizer last week so it should still be pretty current.

I followed STEP to a letter and it didn't fix it, neither did reducing particles and decals. I'm 99% sure it's a mod. I just don't believe it's my computer bogging down because my CPU usage is never above 30% and my frames are always capped at 60 with vsync and well over 60 with vsync turned off.

I setup a brand new computer last night, so at least I'll be able to start fresh, install a few at a time and see what's up. My playtime in Skyrim pales in comparison to the time I've spent making it work/look good/ installing and experimenting with stuff/etc...
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