Who's Goddess Etro? (possible spoilers)

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6 years ago#1
I played the game, read the entire datalog, and beat the game, but I still don't know who she is.
6 years ago#2

Apparently she is the one who freed Lightning and co. from their crystal state and summoned Lightning to a separate "world". That's bout all I know.

6 years ago#3
She did? I thought it was Vanille and Fang...
How'd you know that? And where in the game did it even mention her name?
6 years ago#4
the analects mention her name.. the last one..

also, at the end of chapter 11, there is a cutscene after the bart fight where a new cieth stone appears with data on what happened during the war, stating that 'her providence' stopped ragnarok the first time out of pity for cocoon.

her providence is also referred to in the analects, and her name is Etro.
6 years ago#5
Is Etro 'the maker' that the Fal'Cie are apparently searching for? Or one of the makers or something like that.
6 years ago#6
Etro is not the Maker.

With the new information from the XIII-2 mythology trailer, it appears increasingly likely that the Maker is Muin, the true goddess that Etro was created in the image of.

BTW, Etro's not a goddess either. She's a fal'Cie. Of course, nothing in the first game said that, so I don't blame for not knowing.
6 years ago#7
It's hard to say who is the "Maker"

Muin created the planet, but Pulse & Lindzei were the one's who created the game's Fal'cie, so technically, Pulse and Lindzei are their "makers". Also, the land is named "Gran Pulse" not "Grand Muin"

So the Maker could have been Pulse, Lindzei, Muin or even Burnbezei.
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6 years ago#8
The term "Maker" in the FF13 universe is relative.

For the citizens and lesser Fal'cie of Cocoon, it's probably the Fal'cie Pulse or Lindzei, since they created the Fal'cie, Cocoon, and EXPANDED Gran Pulse itself.

For Pulse and Lindzei, the "Maker" is most likely Buniberzei, THEIR creator.

Muin gave birth to Buniberzei, but it's not been confirmed if she originally created both Gran Pulse and Bunibelle (the invisible world).


When Bartandelus talks of the "Maker", I assume he's referring to Buniberzei, since he seems to be a superior Fal'cie carrying out Lindzei's duty.
6 years ago#9
question is.. does bart know he's in crystal stasis.. he speaks of the maker abandoning them.. does bart know it's to benefit for destroying muin/etro?

why isn't lindzei in cahoots with bart? does bart just not know that much?
5 years ago#10
^ I'm not sure where I got this info from, but I recall that Lindzei actually left Cocoon long before the events of FF13. Perhaps she just told Barthandelus that the Maker "left", and over time his distortion of what was said lead to the misunderstanding of "abandonment"?

I don't see why lesser Fal'cie need to be given any specific details on the motives of Pulse/Lindzei. Fal'cie have little free will and only exist to carry specific tasks. For all we know, Lindzei probably told Bart that the Maker is a benevolent being that will fix all of the worlds problems and make everything happy. His focus is to simply bring about his summoning. End of.
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