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Noah_Ivaldi
Posted 5/17/2012 6:35:50 PM
I dunno'; if you use a tough enough SEN monster, like Silver Chocobo or Pulse Glad, you may be able to get away with only using that. Plus, since it wouldn't be a speed run, you could actually use Raise like a real gamer, rather than tossing out your stock of Phoenix Downs.
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Arthellinus
(Topic Creator)
Posted 5/17/2012 6:39:10 PM
Actually, what am I thinking? You can simply refresh Provoke with your main SEN after one round with Noel/SEN to get him to chill.

Anyway, in discussing the list further down the road, we'll also have to account for the fact that availability has changed for all the uniques... but only if you have the DLC. So the uniques may each have two separate rankings (Chichu for sure) to account for either scenario.
kokushishin
Posted 5/17/2012 7:05:01 PM
Noah_Ivaldi posted...
That's not what I'm referring to (though I didn't know that about SENs; I think that the SEN multiplication one is just a rumor).

Proven many many times over; it's the whole point of switching to Tortoise.


I'm talking about the total RAV Bonus Boost multiplier

It's not a multiplier. you add 1, 2, or 3. ATB should win out every time..
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Gavvin
Posted 5/18/2012 1:20:22 AM
Are all unique monsters re-recruitable?
Noah_Ivaldi
Posted 5/18/2012 1:42:45 AM
@Gav: They're all drops from different levels of Valfodr.

@Arth: I don't see how Chichu changed so much. Chichu still has tremendously early availability. Are you referring to the idea of raising a Chichu on Potent Crystals, using that for a while, and later replacingg it with a much better version?

@koku: The Piggyback guide has been wrong, before, and a little confirmation can't hurt. For instance, we just found out that the role gems (Supporter's Amethyst, Berserker's Ruby, and so on) are completely wrong. I've learned not to be too presumptuous with their calculations.
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Gavvin
Posted 5/18/2012 1:56:37 AM
Excellent news... Thank you
Noah_Ivaldi
Posted 5/18/2012 1:58:18 AM
Welcome.
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tiornys
Posted 5/18/2012 1:59:20 AM
Noah_Ivaldi posted...
@koku: The Piggyback guide has been wrong, before, and a little confirmation can't hurt. For instance, we just found out that the role gems (Supporter's Amethyst, Berserker's Ruby, and so on) are completely wrong. I've learned not to be too presumptuous with their calculations.

In fairness, we only know the Supporter's Amethyst is wrong. I don't know of any testing that's been done on the other jewels.

t~
Noah_Ivaldi
Posted 5/18/2012 2:06:34 AM
Fair enough. We're sure that Supporter's Amethyst is wrong, and that gives us reason to believe that the others are wrong.
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Gavvin
Posted 5/18/2012 2:37:08 AM
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