So is Com Lightning not effective against Valfodr?

#1Darkinsanity1Posted 10/31/2013 5:19:33 PM
She's barely doing over 50k damage to him per hit. Is she viable against him without Ally Ko surge power 2?
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#2destrian522Posted 10/31/2013 5:40:32 PM
Is this Valfodr 99, then?

Armor Lightning is good with or without Ally KO: Power Surge II, but she is certainly better with it.
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#3Darkinsanity1(Topic Creator)Posted 10/31/2013 6:01:24 PM
Oh, yes it's Valfodr level 99. But I followed the fusion guide which doesn't have Ally Ko Power surge 2 listed, only as an altrenate. I usually prefer to go the best all around route.

But because of that difference, Chichu seems to work better for me against Valdodr, since he attacks faster. Usually against other enemies like Gilgamesh she does enough damage that she out performs Chichu, but not against Valfodr level 99.
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#4destrian522Posted 10/31/2013 6:21:10 PM(edited)
Frankly, that's a mistake in the guide. It belongs on her default list.

It was left off not because it isn't better, but rather because it was argued that some players won't like playing that way. That's a poor argument at best.

The fastest recorded Valfodr Lv. 99 fight uses Armor Lightning, by the way.
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#5Darkinsanity1(Topic Creator)Posted 11/1/2013 10:57:58 AM
destrian522 posted...
Frankly, that's a mistake in the guide. It belongs on her default list.

It was left off not because it isn't better, but rather because it was argued that some players won't like playing that way. That's a poor argument at best.

The fastest recorded Valfodr Lv. 99 fight uses Armor Lightning, by the way.


I saw that on YouTube yeah. I however don't really like playing that way but I also really prefer Lightning over Chichu. She's so much cooler. Hmm if I did decide to add Ally Ko surge power 2 can I do that after the fact, or would I need to make a new Lightning?

If I would have to make a new Lightning I'm not interested lol.
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#6destrian522Posted 11/1/2013 6:42:52 PM
You can add it after the fact.
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#7Darkinsanity1(Topic Creator)Posted 11/1/2013 9:11:20 PM
destrian522 posted...
You can add it after the fact.


When you go to infuse what ability would it kick out or take precedence over?
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#8destrian522Posted 11/2/2013 9:07:56 AM
When you infuse, the lowest ability on the list is removed (if applicable). Basically, you should make sure that the ability you want to get rid of is at the bottom (Chain Bonus Boost II or Feral Speed II).
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#9chrcolPosted 11/8/2013 9:55:28 PM
destrian522 posted...
Frankly, that's a mistake in the guide. It belongs on her default list.

It was left off not because it isn't better, but rather because it was argued that some players won't like playing that way. That's a poor argument at best.

The fastest recorded Valfodr Lv. 99 fight uses Armor Lightning, by the way.


in my opinion the main problem with the guide is it only lists one build for each character, I dont see the issue with having multiple builds listed per character.

I do think its a valid argument tho about playing style, whilst it may be the fastest kill time, it doesnt mean its the easiest and best for all players.

especially that all these videos made showing off good fights on youtube, they are not accompanied by guides, I keep trying to tell people that youtube videos with no voice over commentary does not = a guide, it just = a proof of success.

There is still no guides for the dlc collesium fights which is a sad situation.
#10psicomelitePosted 11/9/2013 12:43:02 AM
The PSSR DLC is the closest you're going to get to a guide, at least for the three hardest fights (but really, those are the only ones really worth detailing, mechanics for all the other fights are pretty easily inferred from watching multiple videos).
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