Isn't the Digital Copy Better?

#111Shinobi120Posted 12/20/2011 9:26:28 AM
We're not paranoid, we're just speaking the truth.
#112PlCANTEPosted 12/20/2011 9:44:51 AM
Garlandjr posted...
dragonballzfan2 posted...
Starwars4J posted...
I fear for a future of DD-only gaming.

Me too :(

Me three. If gaming ever becomes DD only, I'm either going retro gaming or quit gaming altogether. I like owning my stuff.


Three guys that never used Steam, D2D or GOG I see. But hey, I'd be terrified of DD-only gaming too if it were left in the hands of Sony or Microsoft..
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#113Shinobi120Posted 12/20/2011 10:14:18 AM(edited)
PlCANTE posted...
Garlandjr posted...
dragonballzfan2 posted...
Starwars4J posted...
I fear for a future of DD-only gaming.

Me too :(

Me three. If gaming ever becomes DD only, I'm either going retro gaming or quit gaming altogether. I like owning my stuff.

Three guys that never used Steam, D2D or GOG I see. But hey, I'd be terrified of DD-only gaming too if it were left in the hands of Sony or Microsoft...


Or Nintendo. But I'm just going to copy & paste on what two posters said between DD on consoles, & DD on PC, because there is a difference between them...

Village Idiot posted...
The problem with DD is because it doesn't work for console games atm since its all controlled by one company.

DD works on the PC because we've got multiple DD sources, ie: Steam, D2D, GoG, Origin, etc.

For DD on consoles, we've got Live and PSN. Look at their prices compared to retail. It takes eons for them to go down and they have no real incentive to rush, because they don't have any DD competition.


PHOENIXZERO posted...
Maybe you should and grow up along with it. You can't compare PC DD services to consoles, Steam has competition due to the PC being an open platform with multiple competing DD services, Sony and Microsoft's market places do not because they are closed platforms where EVERYTHING goes through them, there's games that came out years ago being sold for significantly more than a physical copy you can still buy.

Sony and Microsoft can AND HAVE had games removed from their stores leaving people unable to redownload them if needed, you're at their ****ing mercy. And before pulling percentages out of your ass you could have taken five seconds to look up a source with legitimate numbers.
#114PlCANTEPosted 12/20/2011 10:24:33 AM
And people have multiple outlets on consoles/handhelds as well, they just might not be legal ones. Until the console/handheld manufacturers stop being obtuse about how DD gaming could be extremely beneficial to not only them, but also gain deep-seeded consumer loyalty, console/handheld manufacturers are going to be in a long and drawn out battle with each other, pirates, and eventually crappy smartphone app stores (you may think they're bad now, but they were the devil's butthole 3 years ago. And they've been improving ever since).
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#115prinnylord1Posted 12/20/2011 10:32:47 AM
Garlandjr posted...
We're not paranoid, we're just speaking the truth.

Then you would hae noticed that the things mentioned were always there physical and digital. I mean seriously you had to have noticed it atleast by now.

I like owning my games too but when it boils down to it, how can I get my game faster and cheapest? Driving down to the local gamestop which is a town over burning gas, or just logging on to PSN buying and downloading the game I want? And if your speaking the truth, wheres some proof to back up said truth? How do you know that DD will replace physical? How would gaming be ruined by DD?
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#116Shinobi120Posted 12/20/2011 12:33:49 PM(edited)
prinnylord1 posted...
Garlandjr posted...
We're not paranoid, we're just speaking the truth.

Then you would hae noticed that the things mentioned were always there physical and digital. I mean seriously you had to have noticed it atleast by now.

If your speaking the truth, wheres some proof to back up said truth? How would gaming be ruined by DD?


Many posters like myself already told you a while ago. Want more proof about it? Why not read these:

http://www.gamingsymmetry.com/why-dlc-and-dd-are-killing-gaming/
http://www.gamingsymmetry.com/digital-distribution-is-about-to-get-ugly/
http://thegamefanatics.com/digital-distribution-good-bad/
http://www.destructoid.com/fearing-the-future-of-digital-distribution-147627.phtml
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/20011097/

They all have good points about DD only being horrible for gaming.
#117prinnylord1Posted 12/20/2011 1:34:22 PM
Garlandjr posted...
prinnylord1 posted...
Garlandjr posted...
We're not paranoid, we're just speaking the truth.

Then you would hae noticed that the things mentioned were always there physical and digital. I mean seriously you had to have noticed it atleast by now.

If your speaking the truth, wheres some proof to back up said truth? How would gaming be ruined by DD?

Many posters like myself already told you a while ago. Want more proof about it? Why not read these:

http://www.gamingsymmetry.com/why-dlc-and-dd-are-killing-gaming/
http://www.gamingsymmetry.com/digital-distribution-is-about-to-get-ugly/
http://thegamefanatics.com/digital-distribution-good-bad/
http://www.destructoid.com/fearing-the-future-of-digital-distribution-147627.phtml
http://www.capcom-unity.com/ask_capcom/go/thread/view/7371/20011097/

They all have good points about DD only being horrible for gaming.


Currently I'm on a cell at work so I can't go see them now, but I will after work which should be around 11
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#118Kurgan777Posted 12/20/2011 1:44:53 PM
prinnylord1 posted...
Dood... this sounds a lot like paranoia... its not like a thing called "demos" exist... a "trial" is the full game but a limit to how long you can play it... and dlc is just companies being lazy

Pinball FX 2 is NOT listed as a demo or a trial, it's listed as "Full Game Free", but in order to play longer than 1 minute on 1 table, you have to pay.

It's not the only game that does it either, there's only one true Free game on XBL and that's Hexic HD, everything else is actually a trial falsely listed as a free game. Another game falsely listed as free is called War World, a mech arena fighter, you get 1 mech with 1 weapons loadout and you can only play in PART of the single arena they give you while the AI enemies get full access to the whole arena. That means if you chase those enemies to kill them, the game stops and asks you to pay to unlock the full arena.

It's not paranoia at all, the idea of Micro-Transactions first was presented in a videogame magazine more than 10 years ago, now it's here and nobody is complaining about it even though it's being used as a "license" for developers to be as lazy and greedy as they possibly can.

kyncani posted...
Cyber Akuma Zero posted...
the digital version requires the purchase of a 900 yen online pass to play it online.

I think that's meant to grab some revenues on used-sales (not that I approve or not, mind you).


When it's a forced extra purchase with a NEW game to play online, used sales have nothing to do with it.

PlCANTE posted...
Until the console/handheld manufacturers stop being obtuse about how DD gaming could be extremely beneficial to not only them, but also gain deep-seeded consumer loyalty, console/handheld manufacturers are going to be in a long and drawn out battle with each other, pirates, and eventually crappy smartphone app stores (you may think they're bad now, but they were the devil's butthole 3 years ago. And they've been improving ever since).

Since the hardware makers have no way to sell their consoles on their own, the more they try to cut out retailers from the distribution chain, the worse the systems are going to sell.

Retailers all over the world have refused to push DD only systems more than once already, one system tried back in the XBox days and never made it to market because they couldn't find a single retailer willing to sell their product.
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#119prinnylord1Posted 12/20/2011 4:01:25 PM
You know what I thought of sitting here eating... there's really no way fr devs to go dd only because it would be cutting out the non gamers or non tech savys like grandparents, soccer moms, my dad... when it comes down to it they are the ones who spend the most for video games mainly as gifts to grandchildren, kids, who ever. I mean look at the wii, it didn't get popular selling hardcore games it sold mostly casual stuff and what put it on top the charts now take some of thoose people and think would they be able to buy a game not know how to get to the game? I guess that's why I think nothings gonna happen cause it would spell DOOM if they did... now back to my pizza!
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