PlayStation Vita

what are you going on about? the PSP predated major online service via PSN servers. today however, seeing as ALL PS3 games use the PSN Servers as authentication for their online modes and REQUIRE you to have an account, I see 0% chance of this changing on the vita.

Well considering since some/most games CANT be played without a memory card I dont see why you would be able to to play a game (you cant play) online without a memory card. Thus means just sign into psn.
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ITP1 posted...
Saying that PSN accounts can be tied to a memory card does not mean that you must own a memory card to create or log in to your account.

"Can" implies choice. I'm under the impression it isn't a choice but a requirement; note: "Your PSN ID is bonded to your memory card and your memory card is bonded to your Vita." Where have you seen accounts "can" be tied to memory cards or that a memory card is not needed?

Btw - tying a PSN account to your machine without a memory card does not mean that you'll suddenly be able to freely switch between accounts without factory defaults every time. No idea where you came up with that...

The hypothetical came from the statement I quoted above, PSN ID "is" bonded to your memory card. Without a memory card your PSN ID is bonded to nothing and therefore, hypothetically you should be able to log into whichever ones you want. But that has been stated not to be the case of course. My question to you is, where did YOU come up with that accounts can even be tied to your machine without a memory card? This was the assumption before the "PSN ID is bonded to your memory card" statements came out but under the new information, it looks more likely that you require a memory card.

There has been absolutely ZERO information in regards to PSN IDs/accounts and having no memory card. Any claims are purely speculation and assumption on that end (If there are any legitimate sources that talk about this I am all ears). As far as wanting a different PSN ID on the same memory card it was said a factory reset was needed (most likely a reformat of the memory card).

There has been many reports of using different PSN accounts by swapping out memory cards and PSN accounts being tied to memory cards. An educated guess, based on the info provided, should lead one to assume a memory card is required.

This leads me back to my first question, Do you need a PSN ID to play online (like the PS3)? I couldn't find any info on this and thought maybe people would have more info here, but it seems the specifics aren't out yet on A) If you require a memory card for a PSN ID and B) If you require a PSN ID to play online.
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1. Memory cards are bonded to PSN accounts, must factory reset to change account OR insert a new card.
2. Playing games online requires a PSN account
3. If you have to do a system reset to change the account on a memory card (unless it's new) doesn't it follow that PSN account functionality on the system depends on the memory card?

Therefore playing games online requires a memory card
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ITP1 posted...
I came up with it using a little something called common sense.

PSVita's online structure would be completely stupid if you can't log in to PSN without a memory card.

a much more likely scenario is that you can bond your system to any PSN ID, but once you do you're stuck with that (imagine a PS3 with only one local user) and in order to bond a different account you must either factory reset your device, or insert a memory card bonded to that 2nd account (might even require a reboot)

each memory card must be registered to a PSN account to use it, but it does not neccesarily say that you must own a memory card to register your device to a PSN account, as that would be horrible design and is horribly unlikely.

in any case, we'll all see in 2 days. but I hate the huge amounts of negativity around here.

So basically you have nothing to backup your claim except your delusional wishful thinking; please move along then. This topic was looking to see if people had any information on the subject, not baseless conjectures by someone who's ignoring what has been said. Common sense doesn't mean wishful thinking. Look at the information provided instead of making up things because you want them that way. It's not about negativity, it's about finding out the facts. If you have information then provide it, otherwise clear the way for anyone who may have. (Though it looks like there is no information one way or another and we will have to wait)
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