The Vita cards aren't overpriced

#91kyncaniPosted 12/23/2012 12:53:05 PM
ITP posted...
kyncani posted...
Excluding SD and SDHC ? USB, compact flash, SSD, basically everything.


CF: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB%20CF

ranges from 40 to 140$, depending on the card type, for 32GB.

SSD: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB+SSD&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A32GB+SSD

ranges from 50 to 80$, depending on manufacturer and type for 32GB.

USB: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB+USB&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A32GB+USB

ranges from 20-30$, depending on manufacturer and type for 32GB.


the only which is not in line with the Vita is USB, and that's because there's mass consumerism in that market, as can be seen by looking at that amazon page.

when the MSRP is 80$ or 50$, and the actual price is 20$, you know that there's something terribly wrong with the market.

the Vita's memory market did not yet see retailers begging on all fours for clients to buy the sony memory products by selling them at 1/4 or 1/2.5 of the original MSRP, which is why the USB memory type is so weirdly cheap.

besides, you can't go by MSRPs when quoting Vita products, and go by Amazon for other products, that's not a fair comparison. Vita 32GB amazon price is ~80$, and 16GB is ~47$, when you count sales, I actually got my 16GB for about 35$, which is exactly what I expected to pay for it.

Yeah, basically any standard technology is cheaper than vita memory card.
#92Gandalf the IstariPosted 12/23/2012 1:07:42 PM(edited)
ITP, if you don't already work at Sony maybe they'll hire you? They clearly don't value business acumen.
#93synthetiksinPosted 12/23/2012 1:10:57 PM
SSD drives are cheaper per dollar/gig than vita cards. What crack are you smokin' to think vita memcards aren't overpriced?
#94chitowndocPosted 12/23/2012 1:11:20 PM
yes, they are overpriced. anyone with 1/2 a brain knows this. OP is an idiot.
#95F_WolfPosted 12/23/2012 1:19:03 PM
ITP posted...
kyncani posted...
Excluding SD and SDHC ? USB, compact flash, SSD, basically everything.


CF: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB%20CF

ranges from 40 to 140$, depending on the card type, for 32GB.

SSD: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB+SSD&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A32GB+SSD

ranges from 50 to 80$, depending on manufacturer and type for 32GB.

USB: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=32GB+USB&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A32GB+USB

ranges from 20-30$, depending on manufacturer and type for 32GB.


the only which is not in line with the Vita is USB, and that's because there's mass consumerism in that market, as can be seen by looking at that amazon page.

when the MSRP is 80$ or 50$, and the actual price is 20$, you know that there's something terribly wrong with the market.

the Vita's memory market did not yet see retailers begging on all fours for clients to buy the sony memory products by selling them at 1/4 or 1/2.5 of the original MSRP, which is why the USB memory type is so weirdly cheap.

besides, you can't go by MSRPs when quoting Vita products, and go by Amazon for other products, that's not a fair comparison. Vita 32GB amazon price is ~80$, and 16GB is ~47$, when you count sales, I actually got my 16GB for about 35$, which is exactly what I expected to pay for it.


So...your saying your 16GB cost as much as 32GB in ANY other form of memory...I'm confused about who you are trying to make argument for here, or why. Sony purposefully skirted around the standard to overprice memory. You can't argue that it has anything to do with mass producing when they all have the same flash chips in them. The only reason they are over priced is cause no one bothers with them, so they few manufactures that do can gouge the crap out of everyone.

Yet none of that matters...because Sony still is going out of their way to create exactly this situation. you can sit here and quote prices and try and defend the price and preach supply and demand and costs all day, but NONE OF IT MATTERS. Unless you are going show us WHY Sony NEEDED to go with their own proprietary format for any other reason then "to make more money", then guess what, they are overpriced, end of story.
#96pacpuf7249Posted 12/23/2012 1:25:51 PM
ITP posted...
Koi_Tenchi posted...


While we're talking logic, I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how Sony is protecting me.

I didn't quite catch that.


Sony is not protecting you, it's protecting the system.

by having a very aggressive DRM that does not allow the memory card's content to be controlled by any outside software (even when connected to PS3 / PC, you still control the content flow via content manager.) sony has effectively sealed the system as tightly as they could to outside software.

the point is that since no outside software is allowed to view the card or modify it, there's nothing for hackers and pirates to reverse-engineer, and even if they did use the PSP section of things to get hombrewed content up and running, they're shut inside a sandboxed area of the firmware, and are limited to the resources available in the PSP emulator.

That's the point of using proprietary cards (and not M2s, which they would've probably used otherwise) and that's the reason for the content manager system.

as a legal user who is against piracy, I can definitely see the advantages of this system in all areas, despite how it might limit me in some places and annoy me in others. I put up with it because I know the alternative is getting a lot less content on the system, because publisher s and developers do not want to invest in places where their content is compromised.




Oh GOD, thank you! I cant believe I had to wade through 7 pages of people naming SD prices and going around in circles to find this glorious answer, even though I was gonna ask the same thing as Koi.

I actually thought that the "protection" being offered by these cards was that if some a** stole it just to store porn in in so when your mom checked your vita and found porn in it, she'd ground you and take vita away. Ridiculous.

These cards can be stolen just as easy and can be broken just as easy. But at the end of the day, the protection was from homebrews. Stupid business strategies of today are depressing.
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#97PHOENIXZEROPosted 12/23/2012 1:40:02 PM
Ahhh! A year later and the same old b****ing. Yes they're overpriced and it's time for everyone to get over it.
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#98F_WolfPosted 12/23/2012 1:45:39 PM
pacpuf7249 posted...
ITP posted...
Koi_Tenchi posted...


While we're talking logic, I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how Sony is protecting me.

I didn't quite catch that.


Sony is not protecting you, it's protecting the system.

by having a very aggressive DRM that does not allow the memory card's content to be controlled by any outside software (even when connected to PS3 / PC, you still control the content flow via content manager.) sony has effectively sealed the system as tightly as they could to outside software.

the point is that since no outside software is allowed to view the card or modify it, there's nothing for hackers and pirates to reverse-engineer, and even if they did use the PSP section of things to get hombrewed content up and running, they're shut inside a sandboxed area of the firmware, and are limited to the resources available in the PSP emulator.

That's the point of using proprietary cards (and not M2s, which they would've probably used otherwise) and that's the reason for the content manager system.

as a legal user who is against piracy, I can definitely see the advantages of this system in all areas, despite how it might limit me in some places and annoy me in others. I put up with it because I know the alternative is getting a lot less content on the system, because publisher s and developers do not want to invest in places where their content is compromised.




Oh GOD, thank you! I cant believe I had to wade through 7 pages of people naming SD prices and going around in circles to find this glorious answer, even though I was gonna ask the same thing as Koi.

I actually thought that the "protection" being offered by these cards was that if some a** stole it just to store porn in in so when your mom checked your vita and found porn in it, she'd ground you and take vita away. Ridiculous.

These cards can be stolen just as easy and can be broken just as easy. But at the end of the day, the protection was from homebrews. Stupid business strategies of today are depressing.


Then you might want to read that "glorious" answer again, because " I put up with it because I know the alternative is getting a lot less content on the system, because publisher s and developers do not want to invest in places where their content is compromised." Is probably the most hilarious load of crap I've heard all year.
#99Bleach313Posted 12/23/2012 1:51:35 PM
It all depend on your financial status if it's to much. To me they're not that much since I have a certain entertainment budget enough to get one anytime I want, but to most I can see this being expensive. Though everyone is right, all it is is a micro SD with a PS logo on it. It's supposed to stop the system from being hacked like the PSP, but as we can see from the homebrew for the Vita being made it won't last long. Even the reason they made the card for is going to be gone if it gets hacked anyway. If that happens then I hope Sony has an excuse for their mem cards then, because if they don't.... God help us all.

So yeah I kinda believe the mem cards are overpriced compared to other SD's like it. Though to me it's not much of a hassle but still noticeable.
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#100stargazer64Posted 12/23/2012 1:52:09 PM
PHOENIXZERO posted...
Ahhh! A year later and the same old b****ing. Yes they're overpriced and it's time for everyone to get over it.


This. It was even worse during the psp's first few years so you'd think people would have gotten over it a long time ago.

Attention humans: Sony will find a way to ream you. Get over it.
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