2 years ago#51
EJ226 posted...Regardless if Sony sellng Vita at a less o not, it seems like Sony isn't doing what it needs to do to get with his thing turned around before its too late. They need third party support that isn't a port from 3ds or console systems. They need original games only on Vita. They need a price drop on the memory cards at the very least.
Its only a list of developers who have the development kit at that point of time.
(Topic Creator)2 years ago#52
I have realized from the start the sales figures and prices. I believe though that sony might need to do a price cut on th memory cards and at least a temporary price cut on the Vita to pick up sales. With todays economy not everybody can afford to spend $250-300 on a product that might fail fairly quick.
2 years ago#53
LuminescentRule posted...Weird that you have a GT but not a PSN ID in your signature.
Lol so true.
2 years ago#54
Totally agree with your points.
2 years ago#55
ITT: The ignorant spout nonsense, the Vita isn't doing so well in sales, Sony has reduced their expectations due to the poor hardware sales, it is not what Sony wants, far from it. If I can remember correctly Sony predicted 10 million units should be sold in a given time period and this has been decreasing.
I was wrong. It's actually costs less to make then what I said.
No the costs of the parts is 160. I believe Sony does there manufacturing in china so you can deduct $2 for every vita sold to pay off the entire factory for a day. The only thing Sony has to pay off is R&D and for all we know it already is paid off.
Oh and 1 more thing. When Sony said 10 million sales they were talking about vita and psp combined. Also if they only make 8 million it fell short yes but isn't far off to them.
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2 years ago#56
It took way too many posts before someone brought up the fact that retailers have their cut. That $180 price also didn't factor in several other things from what I remember. Sony is likely selling those memory cards to retailers for a premium seeing where they prices of them have been. They were at best breaking even with the Vita (though perhaps not) but making money with accessories (especially the memory cards) and games.
I never said that. License fees are a separate charge developers have to pay. It's a one time fee. Some people were claiming that Sony charges an additional % for each game sold. I said we don't even know that is true and even if it is it wouldn't be more than 5%.
That 160 not 180 see above post. It is the cost if you went to buy all those parts individually. It doesn't even account for the huge discount Sony would get for ordering a huge amount of them. That is retail price. Now 250-160=90. 90 dollars to pay off whatever Sony wants. Out of that maybe $2 off of every vita goes to paying off the factory for a day as it's in china. The rest can go in the bank or can pay off the R&D costs of the vita (most likely) there is no additional cost.
There is obviously money in games and accessories. I never argued that. What I did argue is that there is more money in the actual console. As you brought up the loss leader method hasn't been working to good for Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo has only used this method once with the 3ds price drop. that's it and only for a few short months until the 3DS became profitable again. Sony is taking the same route with the vita.
My point is that people keep saying the vita is costing Sony money. This is untrue. Just look at the facts. It doesn't need to sell tens of millions like the 3DS to be profitable.
2 years ago#57
Um... no. They were very adamant that the VITA would easily sell 10 million units.
For several months, Sony stated Vita was doing fine, and would sell 10 million units, and it was on track with that.
Later, after it became blaringly obvious that they had drastically overestimated the sales, they came out and said "Oh, when we said Vita, we meant PSP sales too."
If you buy that, then there's no reason you shouldn't buy the bridge I'm selling.
Also, do you realize that Sony has to pay for actually producing the item, not just the parts(Probably paying a company big bucks to produce them) Then they have to pay for shipping the units all around the world.
Then not only that, but they wholesale them to retailers. The retailers get a portion of the profit too.
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