Sony lower vita (and psp) sales forecast again: 7million by 31st march

#21bluedmonPosted 2/7/2013 2:52:22 AM
kingofall214 posted...
bluedmon posted...
Shadowfxd2 posted...

"Sony mentioned that they now expect to sell 7 million PSP and PlayStation Vita devices combined by March 31st, 2013."
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/06/sony-lower-playstation-vita-sales-forecast-a-third-time/#fLogbmSBg3cR0wQQ.99

Nope, Sony didn't say anything about lowering it to 7 million... oh wait they did! Anyways, that's horrible that they cannot move enough Vitas with PSP involved to even cover 7 million! I think they should just cut their loses and bluedmon should stop reassuring himself.

thats not sony saying it. thats somebody saying that sony said it. i can say Sony mentioned that they expect to sell 50 million by march 31, 2013 that doesnt mean they said it. they have their own section that is quoted

"Sony’s earnings report reads:



In the digital imaging and the game businesses, which are positioned as core areas of the electronics businesses along with the mobile businesses, the shrinking market for compact digital cameras, due to the expansion of the smartphone market, and the slow penetration of the PlayStation Vita portable entertainment platform are recognized as particularly important issues.



Sony is working to improve profitability through reinforcement of its high value added products that are differentiated by the use of highly competitive image sensors developed by Sony. In the game business, Sony is working to expand sales and operating income through the introduction of an attractive software lineup and through offering game software on mobile devices, including smartphones and tablets."


Where do you see a number there. cause that all that sony said unless there is a link to the full earnings report because its not in that article.

A guess is a guess no matter how much data is behind it or what you wanna call it. That is a fact. The only thing im reassuring myself of is what i learned in college business 101 and statistics 101. Oh and how much this board loves to talk about Vita sales in Japan.

well im off to bed. I'll check when i wake up if a useful link is posted. Until then PEACE!


So you are disputing the claim that Sony said they are dropping the projections of the vita/psp to 7 million. That's fine but why did you bring up it's a guess in the first place if you didn't think the story was true?


Cuz i said it was an xfactor topic and he said it was full of facts and i said there were no facts just random useless numbers. im not doubting the vita doing worse than expected him doubting all the "this is fact" stuff. because its not. AT BEST it is a guess. Now let me sleep......lol
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#22kingofall214Posted 2/7/2013 2:55:21 AM
bluedmon posted...
kingofall214 posted...
bluedmon posted...
Shadowfxd2 posted...

"Sony mentioned that they now expect to sell 7 million PSP and PlayStation Vita devices combined by March 31st, 2013."
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/06/sony-lower-playstation-vita-sales-forecast-a-third-time/#fLogbmSBg3cR0wQQ.99

Nope, Sony didn't say anything about lowering it to 7 million... oh wait they did! Anyways, that's horrible that they cannot move enough Vitas with PSP involved to even cover 7 million! I think they should just cut their loses and bluedmon should stop reassuring himself.

thats not sony saying it. thats somebody saying that sony said it. i can say Sony mentioned that they expect to sell 50 million by march 31, 2013 that doesnt mean they said it. they have their own section that is quoted

"Sony’s earnings report reads:



In the digital imaging and the game businesses, which are positioned as core areas of the electronics businesses along with the mobile businesses, the shrinking market for compact digital cameras, due to the expansion of the smartphone market, and the slow penetration of the PlayStation Vita portable entertainment platform are recognized as particularly important issues.



Sony is working to improve profitability through reinforcement of its high value added products that are differentiated by the use of highly competitive image sensors developed by Sony. In the game business, Sony is working to expand sales and operating income through the introduction of an attractive software lineup and through offering game software on mobile devices, including smartphones and tablets."


Where do you see a number there. cause that all that sony said unless there is a link to the full earnings report because its not in that article.

A guess is a guess no matter how much data is behind it or what you wanna call it. That is a fact. The only thing im reassuring myself of is what i learned in college business 101 and statistics 101. Oh and how much this board loves to talk about Vita sales in Japan.

well im off to bed. I'll check when i wake up if a useful link is posted. Until then PEACE!


So you are disputing the claim that Sony said they are dropping the projections of the vita/psp to 7 million. That's fine but why did you bring up it's a guess in the first place if you didn't think the story was true?


Cuz i said it was an xfactor topic and he said it was full of facts and i said there were no facts just random useless numbers. im not doubting the vita doing worse than expected him doubting all the "this is fact" stuff. because its not. AT BEST it is a guess. Now let me sleep......lol


I think what he meant by fact is that it is a fact that Sony lowered there projections. I guess the plural shouldn't of been there tough.
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#23xfactor(Topic Creator)Posted 2/7/2013 2:59:34 AM
bluedmon posted...
Shadowfxd2 posted...

"Sony mentioned that they now expect to sell 7 million PSP and PlayStation Vita devices combined by March 31st, 2013."
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2013/02/06/sony-lower-playstation-vita-sales-forecast-a-third-time/#fLogbmSBg3cR0wQQ.99

Nope, Sony didn't say anything about lowering it to 7 million... oh wait they did! Anyways, that's horrible that they cannot move enough Vitas with PSP involved to even cover 7 million! I think they should just cut their loses and bluedmon should stop reassuring himself.

thats not sony saying it. thats somebody saying that sony said it. i can say Sony mentioned that they expect to sell 50 million by march 31, 2013 that doesnt mean they said it. they have their own section that is quoted

"Sony’s earnings report reads:



In the digital imaging and the game businesses, which are positioned as core areas of the electronics businesses along with the mobile businesses, the shrinking market for compact digital cameras, due to the expansion of the smartphone market, and the slow penetration of the PlayStation Vita portable entertainment platform are recognized as particularly important issues.



Sony is working to improve profitability through reinforcement of its high value added products that are differentiated by the use of highly competitive image sensors developed by Sony. In the game business, Sony is working to expand sales and operating income through the introduction of an attractive software lineup and through offering game software on mobile devices, including smartphones and tablets."


Where do you see a number there. cause that all that sony said unless there is a link to the full earnings report because its not in that article.

A guess is a guess no matter how much data is behind it or what you wanna call it. That is a fact. The only thing im reassuring myself of is what i learned in college business 101 and statistics 101. Oh and how much this board loves to talk about Vita sales in Japan.

well im off to bed. I'll check when i wake up if a useful link is posted. Until then PEACE!


If you really insist to take the news only from Sony themselves, alright. Here's the slide directly from Sony web site.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg
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#24kingofall214Posted 2/7/2013 3:03:39 AM
xfactor posted...
If you really insist to take the news only from Sony themselves, alright. Here's the slide directly from Sony web site.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg


Note that there chart predicts Min units. So they are predicting 7 million minimum. That is good info to know.
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#25bluedmonPosted 2/7/2013 3:04:43 AM
xfactor posted...

If you really insist to take the news only from Sony themselves, alright. Here's the slide directly from Sony web site.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg


See why couldnt that article just include that picture in the first place.....that being said i see they are projected to sell .2 million more than they actually sold last year.......how is that bad?
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#26xfactor(Topic Creator)Posted 2/7/2013 3:05:54 AM
kingofall214 posted...


I think what he meant by fact is that it is a fact that Sony lowered there projections. I guess the plural shouldn't of been there tough.


This, and the factual numbers of PSP and PS Vita sold, the fact that Sony's current 7 million forecast is lower than their previous 10 million forecast, the fact that this is not the first time they have lowered the forecast (they went from 16 million initially, to 12 million, to 10 million and now 7 million), the fact that these all came from Sony themselves.
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#27Shadowfxd2Posted 2/7/2013 3:06:34 AM(edited)
From: bluedmon | #025
xfactor posted...

If you really insist to take the news only from Sony themselves, alright. Here's the slide directly from Sony web site.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg


See why couldnt that article just include that picture in the first place.....that being said i see they are projected to sell .2 million more than they actually sold last year.......how is that bad?


because the Vita was only a couple months of last fiscal year and PSP was dead everywhere except Japan.
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#28kingofall214Posted 2/7/2013 3:06:58 AM
bluedmon posted...
xfactor posted...

If you really insist to take the news only from Sony themselves, alright. Here's the slide directly from Sony web site.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/slide/image/15_image.jpg


See why couldnt that article just include that picture in the first place.....that being said i see they are projected to sell .2 million more than they actually sold last year.......how is that bad?


It's bad because they were banking on selling almost double that amount. That means they are getting almost half the money they wanted to get.
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#29kingofall214Posted 2/7/2013 3:08:36 AM
xfactor posted...
kingofall214 posted...


I think what he meant by fact is that it is a fact that Sony lowered there projections. I guess the plural shouldn't of been there tough.


This, and the factual numbers of PSP and PS Vita sold, the fact that Sony's current 7 million forecast is lower than their previous 10 million forecast, the fact that this is not the first time they have lowered the forecast (they went from 16 million initially, to 12 million, to 10 million and now 7 million), the fact that these all came from Sony themselves.


But the problem is the original article you posted didn't have any of that. It just had what I said.
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#30bluedmonPosted 2/7/2013 3:09:41 AM
xfactor posted...
kingofall214 posted...


I think what he meant by fact is that it is a fact that Sony lowered there projections. I guess the plural shouldn't of been there tough.


This, and the factual numbers of PSP and PS Vita sold, the fact that Sony's current 7 million forecast is lower than their previous 10 million forecast, the fact that this is not the first time they have lowered the forecast (they went from 16 million initially, to 12 million, to 10 million and now 7 million), the fact that these all came from Sony themselves.


So they overestimated i dont see the problem? they still are guessing to sell more than they did the previous yr while everything else aside from smartphones on that list has dropped since the the previous yr. I fail to see how this is so bad?
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