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Interestingly enough, WiiU owners are asking the same thing.

blue_hedgehog posted...

From: GenocideHeart | Posted: 2/19/2013 12:32:32 PM | #377

Also, @DoctorVader>

My claim was that Pokemon's SELLING POINT is 'Gotta catch 'em all', and seeing how it's even on the goddamn box AND the back of the box and it appeals to the collectors as much as the trainers, if not more, is telltale. Rare, exclusive Pokemon that could be gotten by those who attended events? Making such things exclusive is a common tactic for titillating someone's collector sense. "Nyahaha, I have it and you don't!". It's the same logic under which collector's editions work.

The slogan "Gotta catch 'em all" hasn't been used as a selling point for a long time. The last time it appeared on the box of a Pokemon game was on Pokemon Crystal. The rest of the games haven't used that slogan.

It's actually still being used in ads, like the ones on GameInformer, and the blurbs on the back of the games often include it. It's less prominent, though, I'll honestly give you that. Then again, you're none too subtly encouraged to complete your pokedex in-game... Heck some games even give you tangible ingame rewards to goad you into catching a lot of Pokemon.

At the very least, the games do their level best to make any collector type's OCD flare up. Especially now that the Pokedex will not only show seen and caught Pokemon, but even which ones you caught were Shiny.

archedsoul posted...

Are you seriously comparing some small city with 1/20th of the population to the most dangerous city in the US?

*facepalm*

Vicenza is considered one of the top 5 most dangerous cities in Italy due to 1) a very dense population of mostly illegal African immigrants that often cause trouble over drugs, and 2) the presence of an U.S.A. military outpost, which has repeatedly received terrorist threats in the last 4 years and has actually beem targeted with a (fortunately defused)bomb once in 2009.

It's not a safe city by any stretch of the imagination, even if it's smaller.

DoctorVader posted...

Your father being American is irrelevant. My boy was born in the US and he's been living in Sweden for 13 years since he was 12. He's 'lost' it just as much as you have. Same with my ex who had to live with her dad in Germany and Japan most of her life despite being New Yorkers. And these people were born here to top it off.

The point is not about knowing about things here and there, it's understanding the American culture fully by living in the US for a good amount of time. Just look at the UK and the differences in meaning the same exact phrases have between the US and there. I'm not trying to be a US elitist about it, nor am saying you personally don't have the ability to understand, but your posts were very telling ITT.

Quite frankly, I'm not even sure you CAN talk about AMERICAN culture, as several actual Americans I know both IRL and on the net admit that America doesn't so much have a culture, but is a mishmash of OTHER cultures without an identity all its own. And that's coming from AMERICANS, not from me. Doesn't really paint your argument in a good light, you know?

And it makes sense that it'd be that way since America was basically shaped by the people who went to live there and brought their own baggage of culture with them. Even now, American culture isn't even consistent with itself - Northern and Southern US couldn't be more different in terms of folklore and culture, and it was even worse before the Civil War, when one side used slaves and thought it was peachy and fine, while the other didn't, and most definitely both thought the other side were uncultured, barbaric scum.

American 'culture' is too inconsistent even from the point of view of a born American, unless they really aren't using their brain and are blindly drinking up the government's patriotic propaganda designed to keep their citizen placated sheep that won't just kick their ass for being bad at governing. That's why a lot of the world finds it hard to take it seriously when someone talks about it.

About the only things that can be clearly recognized as culture in America are an overabundance of gun lovers, love for theatrics (otherwise why would wrestling be so popular?), and general arrogance - too many Americans believe that their country is the only one that matters and the rest are irrelevant and pond scum, which is amusing seeing how those irrelevant pond scum countries got a lot of stuff stolen off them by America. Those three things are consistent no matter which state one visits. The rest... seriously, Louisiana and Florida might as well be different NATIONS with how different the people and cultural backgrounds are. And only people who DON'T live in America can notice that, because locals are so used to it they simply are incapable of realizing how inconsistent their country's culture is.

But that's an argument for somewhere other than a videogame board full of console-hating trolls.

This particular style of debating you're using is clearly intended to just piss me off. I've had it with it and you. You berate me for making assumptions and making things up, then turn right around and MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME YOURSELF. Enjoy your hypocrisy alone.