Vita has no system sellers at alll

#121Shadowfxd2Posted 2/15/2013 12:30:15 AM
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lol, goon. Every single game ever released is a "system seller" because somewhere, somebody bought the system to play it.

He says this stuff with a straight face.

Btw, it's Valentine's Day and I'm on vacation in tropical paradise. I still find time to lol at Ponies.

True story.


So I guess game.Com and virtual boy had system sellers lol!
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#122eclecticgiftPosted 2/15/2013 12:36:10 AM
Game.com's system seller was some crappy fighting game.

Virtual Boy was some Wario game.

Vita's system seller is Persona 4 Golden. No regrets in asking the Vita to be my Christmas present and getting P4G along with it. Any game I play after P4G is a bonus. My eyes are set at Zero Escape next.
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#123Shadowfxd2Posted 2/15/2013 12:40:07 AM
From: eclecticgift | #122
Game.com's system seller was some crappy fighting game.

Virtual Boy was some Wario game.

Vita's system seller is Persona 4 Golden. No regrets in asking the Vita to be my Christmas present and getting P4G along with it. Any game I play after P4G is a bonus. My eyes are set at Zero Escape next.


system seller is a game so great it causes a vast amount of people to purchase the gaming system it's exclusive to. Not just a game released on a flop, that sold a few games on the flop.

Examples of System sellers:
Pokemon
Halo 3
Wii sport
GTA etc
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#124grangiaPosted 2/15/2013 12:46:17 AM
Y'all's bein' trolled bah ah known troll.
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#125RyuuHou25Posted 2/15/2013 5:10:46 AM
Shadowfxd2 posted...
From: eclecticgift | #122
Game.com's system seller was some crappy fighting game.

Virtual Boy was some Wario game.

Vita's system seller is Persona 4 Golden. No regrets in asking the Vita to be my Christmas present and getting P4G along with it. Any game I play after P4G is a bonus. My eyes are set at Zero Escape next.


system seller is a game so great it causes a vast amount of people to purchase the gaming system it's exclusive to. Not just a game released on a flop, that sold a few games on the flop.

Examples of System sellers:
Pokemon
Halo 3
Wii sport
GTA etc


Yeah, then by this logic of system seller, there's been very very VERY few throughout gaming. Significant numbers is OBJECTIVE, which means what is considered a system seller in and of itself is also OBJECTIVE, not a ******* fact.

Anyone agreeing with TC and him included, there's a special island we need to throw you on along with all the other people like yourselves. It's called delusional land.

You know when Pokemon was last a system seller? When it came out for Game Boy.

BEGIN SARCASM!

System sellers have to convince people to buy at least.....uhhhh, durrrr, half a billion of that console/handheld, or else they aren't a system seller!!!

Oh, whoops, my objective outlook on that just nullified your entire argument.

*waits for inevitable "logic" argument on the objective number of systems a system seller would have to sell in order to be considered one*

END SARCASM!
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#126L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 2/15/2013 12:03:59 PM
From: RyuuHou25 | #125
Yeah, then by this logic of system seller, there's been very very VERY few throughout gaming. Significant numbers is OBJECTIVE, which means what is considered a system seller in and of itself is also OBJECTIVE, not a ******* fact.


So when asked to pick between two extremes, you pick the less logical one that voids the whole point of the term just because it supports the Vita? Blind fanboy confirmed.

Also, yes it is objective and that's why it's a fact. Facts are objective. Opinions are subjective. What is wrong with you?

Anyone agreeing with TC and him included, there's a special island we need to throw you on along with all the other people like yourselves. It's called delusional land.


Wait, you JUST agreed with me by saying that "significant numbers" is an objective measure. It's amazing how you can managed to keep being belligerent and never actually try to refute my points. Instead, you keep just proving that you have no idea what you're talking about. You just admitted I was right in that post.

You know when Pokemon was last a system seller? When it came out for Game Boy.


LOL

System sellers have to convince people to buy at least.....uhhhh, durrrr, half a billion of that console/handheld, or else they aren't a system seller!!!

Oh, whoops, my objective outlook on that just nullified your entire argument.


Why would an objective outlook be incorrect? Are you making fun of objectivity? I'm not sure if you're a philosophy troll now. Are you attacking objectivism as a whole?

*waits for inevitable "logic" argument on the objective number of systems a system seller would have to sell in order to be considered one*


So wait, why do you keep attacking my objectivity? That just seems counterproductive.
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#127RyuuHou25Posted 2/15/2013 12:21:15 PM
Sure, you're right.

And in being right, you admitted that there are very very few system sellers throughout the entirety of gaming history.

Which nullifies any point this topic had in the first place, since most consoles/handhelds have no system sellers, so why would it matter that the Vita doesn't?

Talk your way out of that logic TC :D
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#128L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 2/15/2013 1:24:46 PM
From: RyuuHou25 | #127
And in being right, you admitted that there are very very few system sellers throughout the entirety of gaming history.


Comparatively? Of course! That's as opposed to you suggesting that there are over 5 million system sellers just because you're a sony fanboy.

And in being right, you admitted that there are very very few system sellers throughout the entirety of gaming history.


Sure, comparatively, there aren't many system sellers. For every 100 games a console has, it has maybe 1 system seller (which moves a lot of units). I don't see this in conflict with my reasoning.

Which nullifies any point this topic had in the first place, since most consoles/handhelds have no system sellers, so why would it matter that the Vita doesn't?


That's a complete non-sequitur.:

A) That's not true; nobody said most consoles have no system seller and only a small minority of a platform's games can be "system sellers". You came to that conclusion on your own because you find it convenient..

and

B) It's clear demonstration that you can't understand what your simple reasoning implies; even if it was true that wouldn't invalidate that consoles that can be named to have no system sellers were outright failures in every way ( Tiger Game.com, for example) which would mean that the the Vita is on the path to flopdom (which matters in the context of this board), amongst the many other ways that that would be a negative thing for the Vita that I'm not going to bother pointing out due to the fact that they're either obvious or unnecessary for the purpose of this discussion. So yes, it matters a lot

Talk your way out of that logic TC


Done

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#129ylvisPosted 2/15/2013 1:49:55 PM
A system seller is a game that moves a significantly number of hardware. That's at least what most people mean when they say "system seller", except if your name is SailorGoon.
#130RyuuHou25Posted 2/15/2013 1:58:58 PM
"Sure, comparatively, there aren't many system sellers. For every 100 games a console has, it has maybe 1 system seller (which moves a lot of units). I don't see this in conflict with my reasoning."

You don't, huh?

By that logic, Vita has minimum 1 system seller. PS3 has minimum, what, 9?

Anyways, this is getting redundant and boring, so I'm just going to point out the final logic on this -

A system seller is one of two things. It's a game that causes substantial increase in sales of a console upon release, and/or a game that people buy a specific system to have.

However, a game that sells well does not automatically make it a system seller. You would have to find proof that said game caused people to buy the system because of that particular game, which is next to impossible.

A system selling more than say the same time a year previous, when a game that sells well came out, is circumstantial and/or coincidental evidence at best. It's not an absolute fact, because you cannot show that every single person who bought a system, did so for that game. You can claim it was because of the game, you could have an opinion it was because of the game, but it's subjective and theoretical, not hard fact.

Since you've established your complete and utter belief in your delusion through your response to my previous message, which was a set up by the by, it's clear that no matter what, none of this will get through to you.

So continue to believe that your subjective belief is an objective and indisputable fact, by all means.
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