How would it make you feel if the Vita should have used BlUMD discs

#11VegantoKeensPosted 10/14/2013 1:50:43 PM
Horrible is what it would have been. A huge empty space that is like a big weak point, CD spinning noise is back, Vita has to be fat again. They should have just gotten everything digitized before they released the PSP Go or they should have used cartridges for the first PSP. Either way, the backwards compatibility issue could have been fixed years ago.
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#12L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 10/14/2013 1:59:29 PM
VegantoKeens posted...
Horrible is what it would have been. A huge empty space that is like a big weak point, CD spinning noise is back, Vita has to be fat again. They should have just gotten everything digitized before they released the PSP Go or they should have used cartridges for the first PSP. Either way, the backwards compatibility issue could have been fixed years ago.


Vita is already fat and completely unpocketable. Once you've crossed that threshold to the point where "portable" means putting it in a backpack or something, what's the point in not making it fatter?
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#13TinyTim123Posted 10/14/2013 2:07:34 PM
L0L_FAQ posted...
VegantoKeens posted...
Horrible is what it would have been. A huge empty space that is like a big weak point, CD spinning noise is back, Vita has to be fat again. They should have just gotten everything digitized before they released the PSP Go or they should have used cartridges for the first PSP. Either way, the backwards compatibility issue could have been fixed years ago.


Vita is already fat and completely unpocketable. Once you've crossed that threshold to the point where "portable" means putting it in a backpack or something, what's the point in not making it fatter?


I easily put it in my back pocket with the face cover from the Muramasa Collector's Edition. How is it unpocketable, unless someone is wearing super tight jeans or those pants for women with the fake pockets?
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#14L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 10/14/2013 2:17:52 PM
TinyTim123 posted...
L0L_FAQ posted...
VegantoKeens posted...
Horrible is what it would have been. A huge empty space that is like a big weak point, CD spinning noise is back, Vita has to be fat again. They should have just gotten everything digitized before they released the PSP Go or they should have used cartridges for the first PSP. Either way, the backwards compatibility issue could have been fixed years ago.


Vita is already fat and completely unpocketable. Once you've crossed that threshold to the point where "portable" means putting it in a backpack or something, what's the point in not making it fatter?


I easily put it in my back pocket with the face cover from the Muramasa Collector's Edition. How is it unpocketable, unless someone is wearing super tight jeans or those pants for women with the fake pockets?


I wear size 33 regular fit khaki pants most of the time, so no, that isn't the issue. The screen is exposed, the analogues are exposed, the thing is fat and too big to comfortably put in my normal, average pocket, whether or not you accept that.
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#15VegantoKeensPosted 10/14/2013 2:24:43 PM
What kind of pansy assed pants do you wear? I can fit the Vita in the front pockets of any of my jeans, completely. For 10 bucks you have a Hori clamshell case that protects the screen and analog sticks too.
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#16TinyTim123Posted 10/14/2013 2:34:41 PM
L0L_FAQ posted...
I wear size 33 regular fit khaki pants most of the time, so no, that isn't the issue. The screen is exposed, the analogues are exposed, the thing is fat and too big to comfortably put in my normal, average pocket, whether or not you accept that.


I also wear a size 33 pair of jeans, slacks, cargo pants whatever. I'll admit the exposed screen and analogues may be pesky, hence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006WJ6YGW/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The screen and sticks are protected. Is it that the issue, you're worried about the screen and sticks? Or is it that you have smaller than average pockets for men's pants?
I am genuinely curious now.
Also, Don't sit on the darn thing.
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#17j2zon2591Posted 10/14/2013 3:06:13 PM
Ah thanks. Then no, not really.. unless Sony passes that $ 10 savings to customers.

Is there actual proof that BR-UMD will be cheaper than, let's say a different alternative like SD w/c seem to cost 5-6 bucks? I'm sure they'll be dirt cheap if Sony themselves mass-orders it and some deal on top of the order.

Just put a DRM where you can't play from them and have to be transferred to Sony's "hypothetically" cheaper proprietary sticks [a different proposal] (for security as they like to claim).

16 GB "cache"? Then has to be slow cache? Then that's slower load times or even redundance. Sony's probably better off using more RAM and faster internals than what they have on the VITA or build internal memory not just as "cache" (load times on some VITA games are annoying).

Motor + lense/+16 gb "cache" because you can't play from BRUMD seems like a hassle and a more expensive device that could cancel out the savings by going BUMD.

Is the 4GB cart limit today even much of an issue? KZM seems to be the only game that really went past it.

Large VITA data for proposed BRUMD (16 GB?) may be a bad practice for current market specially for portables.. could allow leniency for sloppy data and may mean consumers having to buy more and/or larger external memory.

Even if BRUMD is better priced in terms of size than Sony's cart or SD card, doesn't seem like the savings would be passed on for need to have more internals thus a likely more expensive core-unit.

Doubt contacts for carts are as expensive or cheaper than a motor and a lense.

Do we know the corresponding prices of VITA's game cartridges and sizes?
#18j2zon2591Posted 10/14/2013 3:10:50 PM
TinyTim123 posted...
L0L_FAQ posted...
I wear size 33 regular fit khaki pants most of the time, so no, that isn't the issue. The screen is exposed, the analogues are exposed, the thing is fat and too big to comfortably put in my normal, average pocket, whether or not you accept that.


I also wear a size 33 pair of jeans, slacks, cargo pants whatever. I'll admit the exposed screen and analogues may be pesky, hence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006WJ6YGW/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The screen and sticks are protected. Is it that the issue, you're worried about the screen and sticks? Or is it that you have smaller than average pockets for men's pants?
I am genuinely curious now.
Also, Don't sit on the darn thing.


A VITA slim would be more ideal if bulge is such an issue

I've had no issue with the exposed screen and sticks. Those face my leg and contours just fine against my thigh.

The reason I'm not doing this much is because I'm a pansy and put a condom and a screen protector. Putting it in my pockets tend to mess it up and add lint to annoying crannies that would end up making bubbles under the screen protector.
#19L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 10/14/2013 3:19:14 PM
TinyTim123 posted...
L0L_FAQ posted...
I wear size 33 regular fit khaki pants most of the time, so no, that isn't the issue. The screen is exposed, the analogues are exposed, the thing is fat and too big to comfortably put in my normal, average pocket, whether or not you accept that.


I also wear a size 33 pair of jeans, slacks, cargo pants whatever. I'll admit the exposed screen and analogues may be pesky, hence: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006WJ6YGW/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The screen and sticks are protected. Is it that the issue, you're worried about the screen and sticks? Or is it that you have smaller than average pockets for men's pants?
I am genuinely curious now.
Also, Don't sit on the darn thing.


I have that cover, but can't even fit the Vita in my pocket without discomfort with no cases etc, with the cover is other thing entirely. Don't get me wrong, it can get in the pocket with some shoving, it's just incredibly awkward looking and uncomfortable. similarly, I've even been able to pocket an Xbox 360 power brick before. I'm just never going to do that.

When I travel (and that is a LOT, I'm doing air travel like 70% of the time due to the nature of my job), my Vita stays in my backpack alongside the 3DS Nyko Power Grip and portable USB charger, while the bare 3DS sits in my pocket. It's a bit more comfortable in the back pocket, but it sticks out and with the screen. I call shenanigans if your vita doesn't cause you discomfort while in your pocket.
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#20L0L_FAQ(Topic Creator)Posted 10/14/2013 3:42:22 PM
j2zon2591 posted...
Ah thanks. Then no, not really.. unless Sony passes that $ 10 savings to customers.


Yeah, that was the intention, that the MSRP is $10 lower.

Is there actual proof that BR-UMD will be cheaper than, let's say a different alternative like SD w/c seem to cost 5-6 bucks? I'm sure they'll be dirt cheap if Sony themselves mass-orders it and some deal on top of the order.


Optical media costs cents to make, unlike flash storage.

Just put a DRM where you can't play from them and have to be transferred to Sony's "hypothetically" cheaper proprietary sticks [a different proposal] (for security as they like to claim).


The idea is that the BluMD doesn't actually spin after install, or cache. It has to be in the slot to play, like when you install a game to the drive with the Xbox 360.

<quote?16 GB "cache"? Then has to be slow cache? Then that's slower load times or even redundance. Sony's probably better off using more RAM and faster internals than what they have on the VITA or build internal memory not just as "cache" (load times on some VITA games are annoying).

By slow "cache", I mean regular flash memory, which is cheaper than high speed volatile memory like RAM. Vita's memory cards are already on the order of maybe 7MBPS. That's about an MBPS above the speed of a class 6 SD card, so you don't need a super fast flash "cache". It's purely to hold the gamedata till another BluMD is inserted.
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