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Easy Money (500.000+ Thalers in a few hours)

#1STG DeathbotPosted 5/5/2011 12:34:30 AM(edited)
I know a lot of people are complaining about the financial issues in this game and I have come here to clear them up for you.
(Note: I'm breaking this into two posts because of the character limit and I might want to come back and do some editing)

What You Will Need

At least 50 troops in your army to scare away any group of Deserters you may cross
Velvet or Spice (Velvet nets you the most money though)
No alliance to anyone (complete neutrality in order to traverse the overworld uncontested)
Patience

Before Starting

- Villages sell Velvet in large quantities more than large cities or fortresses. Velvet is also rare, so it might take you a while to find some for sale. Velvet can also be expensive, so you should expect to pay at the most, 900 Thalers per unit of Velvet.
- To account for Velvet and Spice being so expensive from certain towns/villages, take on a few "Tax Retrieval" quests from various lords. Collect the taxes but do not return them!. You can also get a quest from the Cossack Hetmanate (red faction) to grab a Hidden Cache of money from Dunayivtsi. The elder requires a password before he will hand over the cash, so you must travel up to the Muscovite Tsardom (greenish yellow faction) to get the correct password for what is wrote on the cannons. Once you retrieve the hidden cache, you will be selected with two options upon leaving the town: "Take The Money" or "Prepare For A Fight!". Select option 2. If you select option 1, you will be instantly hated by the Cossacks and attacked on-sight. If you select option 2, the quest continues as normal and you can keep the 15,000 Thalers you found in the cache.
- The first thing you want to buy is troops. Grab around 50 Mercenary Cavalry units to ensure every neutral NPC will run from you. When you get some extra cash, buy more troops until you have reached your cap.
- Run from town to town, village to village, and buy at least six units of Velvet. Don't start until you have this much otherwise you will have to break your trading operation to go look for more. It might take a while, but there are enough towns around the map for you to find plenty eventually.
- Generally speaking, the southern towns/villages/cities hold Raw Silk, Spice, and Velvet; whereas the upper towns/villages/cities hold Tools, Iron, Furs, etc. In other words, the expensive items are down south. Check the southern places for Velvet first before venturing north.
- Your inventory should be nothing but Velvet/Spice with the remainder full of food. You won't be doing any fighting (unless you want to) so you won't need any extra space for items. Even if you do get into a fight, it's pointless to toss food aside for a 35 Thaler shirt when you are on your way to making a 120,000 Thaler profit.
- Make sure you have at least 5,000 to 10,000 Thaler remaining in your inventory before starting the next section. If you need more money, check with more lords for more tax quests. You can probably start with less, but your rewards will take a lot longer. You want a lot of money because large caravans cost a lot to send and they net you the most profit. Don't sell yourself short - spend some time getting some extra cash to ensure you will get the most money for your time.
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#2STG Deathbot(Topic Creator)Posted 5/5/2011 12:51:35 AM(edited)
Start Raking In The Cash!

So now you have your army and you have an inventory full of goods. Take your Velvet, head to Kyzykermen (green faction), and then go to the marketplace. Check the Good's Merchant to see if he has any Velvet for sale (remember, goods change with every caravan that enters and leaves a city so Velvet might be there one second and gone the next). If he doesn't, sell one unit of Velvet and then go talk to the mayor through the menu options. Immediately choose the middle option about sending a caravan. When you get to the destination screen, choose Vyborg and then select Velvet as the good you wish to send. Next, choose Large Caravan (assuming you have enough money to send a large caravan) and then begin to escort the caravan up north.

Upon reaching Vyborg and assuming you are escorting a large caravan full of Velvet, you should receive anywhere from 120,000 Thaler to 150,000 Thaler. Immediately head back to Kyzykermen and send another caravan of Velvet to Vyborg. If the merchant in Kyzykermen does not have any Velvet, sell one more unit of Velvet to him in order to send a caravan. Rinse and repeat to your heart's content!

Notes and Helpful Tips

- You only need one unit of Velvet in the Good's Merchant trade screen to send a caravan full of Velvet. If you find more than one unit in the trade screen, buy all but one unit so you can use those for extra caravans and more profit; otherwise, a random caravan will send that Velvet all across Calradia.
- Keep an eye on your food supply. The last thing you want is a starving army mid-delivery and have half of them leave you only to find 50 Deserters in-between you and the nearest town.
- Some say to buy the Trade Permit immediately. I bought one immediately and didn't see a change in profit at all. Just note that it is a typo and actually costs 45,000 Thalers - not 4,500 like the game suggests.
- Bare in mind you don't have to assess the local prices to get a good deal on your caravan. Selling from Kyzykermen to Vyborg should net you a profit of around 2123 Thalers per unit of Velvet which is about as good as it's going to get.
- SAVE OFTEN! I can't stress this enough. Some games crash. Some people get caught up in making so much money they forget and find some tenacious Deserters who don't run from you, wipe out your party, and then take every last copper to your name. If you are playing the realistic option... good luck!
- Spice is a good alternative to Velvet and can net you an easy 50,000 Thalers just about anywhere. If you get frustrated with trying to find Velvet, buy some Spice to sate your thirst for profit.
- Sending a caravan from Vyborg to anywhere down south will not net you a good profit. For whatever reason, I actually lost money on a 34,000 Large Caravan by sending from Vyborg to Sich full of Velvet. I only made around 22,000 Thaler which amounts to a 12,000 Thaler loss.
- Press and hold Control + Space to fast-travel. This isn't cheating and this isn't a glitch. It was implemented for reasons such as this. You move incredibly slow while escorting a caravan and it can take a long time without this feature.
- If you are having a hard time finding a particular city/town/village, click on the Quests menu at the bottom of the screen and then on the Locations tab. Select the area from the list on the right and then click the Show On Map button at the top. It will move your screen to that location so you don't waste a lot of time scanning the map (I've been told this was possibly a feature implemented in Warband but I just now discovered it).
#3boxerdemonPosted 5/5/2011 3:45:14 AM
...yeah, I'll just edit my character sheet and import. Takes about a minute.
#4catsimboyPosted 5/5/2011 3:45:22 AM
Awesome guide thanks, shame you have to cheese the game like this to get enough money to buy some freaking grenades.
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#5ReraisePosted 5/5/2011 7:18:15 AM
Yeah, enable cheats, Ctrl + X.

Much easier than going through all this fuss for a few hundred thousand coin. Spending a few hours cheesing the game to make money, or cheating the cash and spending those hours actually playing the game, id rather play.

Cool guide though.
#6STG Deathbot(Topic Creator)Posted 5/5/2011 11:50:30 AM
I feel cheats ruin the entire game experience, but some people don't feel the same way. This was just wrote for those who don't wish to cheat, though with the numerous bugs and glitches, I can see why some people would want to.
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#7catsimboyPosted 5/5/2011 3:14:10 PM
STG Deathbot posted...
I feel cheats ruin the entire game experience, but some people don't feel the same way. This was just wrote for those who don't wish to cheat, though with the numerous bugs and glitches, I can see why some people would want to.

Heck, you only need to do this once and you'll get enough money to hire a sizeable force of mercenaries and buy better gear for them and yourself, it actually makes the game enjoyable!
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#8sc065Posted 5/5/2011 4:34:03 PM
Yuck, sad to see this game's community has embraced cheating. There's hardly any point in playing the game if you're just handed things in the first place.
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#9catsimboyPosted 5/5/2011 4:47:44 PM
sc065 posted...
Yuck, sad to see this game's community has embraced cheating. There's hardly any point in playing the game if you're just handed things in the first place.

It's not cheating (at least the trick isn't), it's developer oversight, just like the terrible game balance that makes starting a new character really hard without using this get-rich-quick trick. I guess I could do tax collections for hours upon end to get the same results but that's mind-numbingly boring.
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#10jalm94Posted 5/5/2011 5:25:05 PM(edited)
Selling velvet to the goods merchant doesn't unlock the option to send a trade caravan with it for me. For some reason mine only works if the city naturally exports that product.

EDIT: okay, nevermind. Realized that you need enough cash before that option comes up. I'll leave this post here in case anyone was wondering the same thing.
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