"Connor" is not half-british and half-mohawk

#1MikmaqSoliderPosted 1/11/2013 9:04:26 AM
Ubisoft needs to check their wording..

British is a Nationality.. not a race.

You can't be "half-british"...

And, considering "Connor" is, by British law, an illegitimate son of Haytham, he can't inherit the Nationality (or name or property) anyway...

So "Connor" is, really, a FULL-MOHAWK (another nationality, not a race).

He is "Half-European and Half-Native American" by DNA/blood/race...

But considering he grew up in the matrilineal traditions of the Mohawk, I would honestly say that UBISOFT should really have just billed him as a Mohawk, flat out.
#2FalcorPosted 1/11/2013 9:19:38 AM
So you're saying all white people are the same to you?

Racist.
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#3MikmaqSolider(Topic Creator)Posted 1/11/2013 9:28:47 AM
All "white people are the same" in terms of over-generlaized race categories.

When you fill out a form, it says

" White, Non-Hispanic
Black, Non-Hispanic
Hispanic
American Indian/Alaskan Native
Asian/ Pacific Islander
Other /Mix "


So.. within such a basic categorization--- yes, all "white people" are the same... as a "race".
Just like, within that context, all of "any group" would be "the same".. as a "race".

But I am not discussing race here.. I am discussing Natonality.

British is a Nationality. Mohawk is a nationality.

These are Nations with their own laws concerning membership.

"Connor" doesn't have the proper qualifications to aquire British Citizenship.

He does have Mohawk citizenship.

That would make him ALL Mohawk.

Thus, Ubisoft botched that.
#4FalcorPosted 1/11/2013 9:33:41 AM(edited)
Why aren't all native Americans the same then?

So racist. You should go and be ashamed. Be ashamed!

Edit: oh and

http://www.whaatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/ac3-story.jpg

Clearly no Mohawk!
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#5riddlebox89Posted 1/11/2013 9:35:06 AM
By Sicilian Mafia law, you aren't considered a full blooded Italian if one of your parents was a non-Italian.

Connors father being British means he has European blood in him, so the fact that he was entirely raised by Mohawks, and the fact that British law forbids it, is irrelevant, he's still got European blood in him.
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#6aneed4peedPosted 1/11/2013 9:35:09 AM
No one cares anymore. The game's been out for a while and people have moved on.
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#7z_cherubPosted 1/11/2013 9:35:37 AM
MikmaqSolider posted...
Ubisoft needs to check their wording..

British is a Nationality.. not a race.

You can't be "half-british"...

And, considering "Connor" is, by British law, an illegitimate son of Haytham, he can't inherit the Nationality (or name or property) anyway...

So "Connor" is, really, a FULL-MOHAWK (another nationality, not a race).

He is "Half-European and Half-Native American" by DNA/blood/race...

But considering he grew up in the matrilineal traditions of the Mohawk, I would honestly say that UBISOFT should really have just billed him as a Mohawk, flat out.


Why the hell would they do that? "European" isn't a race, & neither is Mohawk. Technically he's half Caucasian & half Native American. That being the case, did you not get the story Ubi was trying to tell anyway. Not everything has to be so cripplingly politically correct...

Not sure why you have such a stick up your ass about Connor's background - it's just a fictional character's story. Could've been worse, a guy like me could have written it out for you. Here:

"Some white guy sailed halfway around the world & got his rocks off in a dirt-farming whore. Nine months later a half cracker half feather-head little bastard fell out of her & became a badass assassin".

Now, doesn't Ubi's delivery sound much better? Honestly, they seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to get the details about the Mohawk culture right in this game, and I think they did a heck of a job. Calm down, Captain Sensitivity.

PS

If you're going to white knight for people's cultures, at least father your facts about what is and is not an ethnicity.
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#8MikmaqSolider(Topic Creator)Posted 1/11/2013 9:39:42 AM
z-cherub : Again, you miss the point.

The point is that it is a glaring error to say he is "Half-British" and "Half-MohawK".

He is a citizen of Mohawk nation...

And he is NOT a citizen of the British Empire.

Hence, forth-- this is a major oversite of Ubisoft's part.

Its not a race thing --- its a legal thing.

He is not British.. not even half.

His father is Caucasian.. but that has nothing to do with his NATIONALITY.
#9KenKoerperichPosted 1/11/2013 9:42:11 AM
Uh, sorry, not Mohawk. In game Conner says the Iriquois people.
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#10z_cherubPosted 1/11/2013 9:46:54 AM
MikmaqSolider posted...
z-cherub : Again, you miss the point.

The point is that it is a glaring error to say he is "Half-British" and "Half-MohawK".

He is a citizen of Mohawk nation...

And he is NOT a citizen of the British Empire.

Hence, forth-- this is a major oversite of Ubisoft's part.

Its not a race thing --- its a legal thing.

He is not British.. not even half.

His father is Caucasian.. but that has nothing to do with his NATIONALITY.


You're assuming that legally, the native Americans he grew up with would completely disregard his Caucasian/British background. That was only the LAW in Brittain, & the game doesn't really touch on how the Mohawk tribe felt about his roots (if they even knew).

Also, who cares? The story was delivered in such a way that the protagonist's background was understood by the audience.
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