my DF'd dragons dogma, for pure strength, beat out carnation lvl 3 stars. im not sure the stats for DF'd carnation tho.
That's because it's Dragonforged, and the Carnation was level 3.
Dragon's Dogma and Carnation at the same forge level have only like a five Strength difference, it's the same as all weapons when it's Everfall vs. Grigori.
Everfall weapons have superior Strength Ur-Dragon weapons have superior combined attack power due to very good Strength / Magick stats. Grigori weapons have anywhere from 5-10 less attack power than Everfall weapons, are heavier, and usually have lower knockback / stagger / stability (for shields).