The specs Kotaku have on the PS4 how does it match up with the Wii U?

#11Board_hunter567Posted 3/28/2012 1:17:08 PM
I'm thinking it's a codename for a smartphone.
#12darkjedilinkPosted 3/28/2012 1:47:35 PM
Enigma149 posted...
To compare to past consoles, the gap between the 4870 and 7970 is roughly the gap between the PS2 and GameCube.

To add a little more perspective, I believe the 7970 is the mot powerful card available right now (which is why I'm getting 3 to put in my gaming rig). That means that, even with the most powerful GPU available, the PS4 won't be more than the GameCube was to the PS2.

Which has been said countless times.
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#13LHS_2012Posted 3/28/2012 1:48:52 PM
darkjedilink posted...
Enigma149 posted...
To compare to past consoles, the gap between the 4870 and 7970 is roughly the gap between the PS2 and GameCube.

To add a little more perspective, I believe the 7970 is the mot powerful card available right now (which is why I'm getting 3 to put in my gaming rig). That means that, even with the most powerful GPU available, the PS4 won't be more than the GameCube was to the PS2.

Which has been said countless times.


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#14NyyarkPosted 3/28/2012 1:51:34 PM
Thats because the PS2 was last last Gen, while the GCN was only last gen, obviously.
#15DarkZV2BetaPosted 3/28/2012 1:51:52 PM
680 is > 7970, actually.
Also, the difference between 4870 and 7970 more than ps2 vs Cube. It's closer to Dreamcast vs Wii.
Oh, also, 7970 crossfire is bork, as is 680 SLI. Getting more than one of either of these cards right now is pointless.
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#16ArabrockermanXPosted 3/28/2012 1:52:56 PM

I don't think it matters if Sony locks people out of used games making them pay a fee for the full game....

 

If those two rumors are true for the next-xbox and ps4 Wii U will dominate next generation even if they are 10x stronger than the Wii U...

 

That being said the ps4 one had one major flaw it claims that ps4 owners will need a Internet connection in order to play their games. Sony would effectively kill the ps4 with such a move.

#17NyyarkPosted 3/28/2012 2:09:24 PM
Enigma149 posted...
Wii U GPU (rumored)
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
4870 | 1.20 | 750 MHz |

PS4 GPU (rumored
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
7970 | 3.79 | 925 MHz


GCN
11 GFLOPS
PS2
6.2 GFLOPS
XBOX
80 GFLOPS

http://segatech.com/gamecube/overview/
http://pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/xbox-cpu-vs-ps2-cpu.4.htm
#18ozfunghiPosted 3/28/2012 2:28:59 PM
Enigma149 posted...
Wii U GPU (rumored)
Based on Radeon R770 chip. All R770 chips are in the Radeon HD 4XXX series. Target specs rumored to be around what the Radeon HD 4850 or 4870 can do (specs shown here are 4870):

GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
4850 | 1.00 | 625 MHz |
4870 | 1.20 | 750 MHz |

PS4 GPU (rumored
AMD x64 GPU. Based on Radeon 7XXX ("Southern Islands") series GPU. Capable of 4096x2160 (4K) resolution. The following GPUs, ranging from weakest to strongest, are all 7XXX GPUs capable of 4K resolutions:

GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
7750 | 0.82 | 800 MHz
7770 | 1.28 | 1000 MHz
7850 | 1.76 | 860 MHz
7870 | 2.56 | 1000 MHz
7950 | 2.87 | 800 MHz
7970 | 3.79 | 925 MHz
7990 | 5.10 | 850 MHz
(note: the 7990 is scheduled for release in Q3 or Q4 of 2012, and the specs here are only based off of leaks. Its expected price is greater than the entire price of the PS3. To compare, the 7970 costs $550, and the two rumored Wii U GPUs cost about $100 each.)

To compare to past consoles, the gap between the 4870 and 7970 is roughly the gap between the PS2 and GameCube.


A 4870 is not going to happen IMO.

According to a rumor on neogaf by a member who "claims" to have insider contacts, devs said the GPU (devkit version unknown) corresponded with a 4770, which falls right in between the 4830 and 4850 (closer to the latter), but runs cooler, and nearly misses 1 Tflops.

Then there was some speculation from a techie, that took into account the rumored spec bumps timeline and compared it to AMD's production timeline. According to him, it makes sense that the GPU would be a downclocked derivative of the HD7770 (downclocked for TDP). The main upside over anything from the 4000 series, is the tessellator.
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#19ozfunghiPosted 3/28/2012 2:30:02 PM
Nyyark posted...
Enigma149 posted...
Wii U GPU (rumored)
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
4870 | 1.20 | 750 MHz |

PS4 GPU (rumored
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
7970 | 3.79 | 925 MHz


GCN
11 GFLOPS
PS2
6.2 GFLOPS
XBOX
80 GFLOPS

http://segatech.com/gamecube/overview/
http://pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/xbox-cpu-vs-ps2-cpu.4.htm




Those Xbox numbers are total BS.

Xbox did little over 20 Gflops in reality.
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#20Enigma149Posted 3/28/2012 3:20:54 PM
Nyyark posted...
Enigma149 posted...
Wii U GPU (rumored)
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
4870 | 1.20 | 750 MHz |

PS4 GPU (rumored
GPU | TFLOPS | Core Clock Rate
7970 | 3.79 | 925 MHz


GCN
11 GFLOPS
PS2
6.2 GFLOPS
XBOX
80 GFLOPS

http://segatech.com/gamecube/overview/
http://pvcmuseum.com/games/vs/xbox-cpu-vs-ps2-cpu.4.htm


Your numbers are the system totals, not just the GPU (GameCube GPU is about 9 GFLOPS, CPU about 2 GFLOPS. PS2 GPU is actually under 1 GFLOPS, GPU roughly 6).

Your Xbox numbers are also extremely high.

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/threads/115825-How-many-FLOPS-are-in-game-consoles
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EkEElVkpkpwLumevqq.php