Folks must be pretty naive....

#41KeyeszxPosted 11/10/2012 1:25:40 AM
GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
lionheart5656 posted...
You have no idea how business works and seeing as you are always completely set on whatever you think the answer is, I'm not going to bother trying to convince you otherwise.


Like another poster just said, they received alot of negative backlash from consumers with the Wii launch, running ads when they were well sold out for long periods. It would be pretty dumb to repeat that error. Most people that walk into a store to bang out their holiday shopping, depending on it being there because its being advertised, if its not there and they get stiffed after they already traveled out to the store, they're going to be pissed. And that's when people get childish and vindictive. "I'll just get billy a ps3 instead, **** Nintendo I cant believe they are advertising something that's sold out!! The nerve!!"


You may not have worked with the general public, but I have, and in many different facets and different types of stores. Game stores, clothing, food. And they're all the same. Full of themselves, set on what they wanted when they came in, and if they cant have it, they throw a 2 year olds tantrum, and if that doesnt get them what they want because its physically impossible, they go for the spite shot. They're gonna spite someone, and in this case, they would buy something else to 'screw nintendo out of a sale, they just lost a customer HMMPPH!!'


Believe me, its a really ****ty idea to be constantly running ads with the launch date IN the ads if you arent gonna have a healthy supply on hand for walk ins. Its a great way to do some PR suicide. I do know how business works, because I had to manage a dept and every job is the same when it comes to not pissing off customers and doing everything to make new ones, hold onto them, and keep them happy. Advertising something you know isn't gonna be in stock, when you know WELL in advance it wont be in stock, is a HUGE no no. Its a no contest, and it goes without saying.


This time the Wii U is the most expensive holiday offering, whereas the Wii was the cheapest. If Nintendo doesnt have product for walk ins that see the commercials, they're gonna have lots of cheaper alternatives to snap up instead. THAT, would be a very poor business move.


So either Nintendo is completely and utterly braindead, or the fanboys are ultra naive and bought into a hype train to sell as many pre orders as possible, and there really will be a good amount extra on hand for walk ins. I'm fine with either scenario lol


Your idea of people is so wrong. Please stop making threads and posting idiotic things.
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#42GoombaXPosted 11/10/2012 1:34:33 AM
lol people said the same for the ds and wii
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#43TreGoodaPosted 11/10/2012 7:18:06 AM
RandomHero posted...
the difference is Apple makes most of their money off hardware. Nintendo makes money from software, which sells based on how much hardware is out in the public. They want to sell Mario and Ninja Gaiden. They don't want to sabotage 3rd party support.
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Nintendo also makes a lot of money off of hardware. That's why their hardware is dated.
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#44rockyminPosted 11/10/2012 7:23:48 AM
TreGooda posted...
RandomHero posted...
the difference is Apple makes most of their money off hardware. Nintendo makes money from software, which sells based on how much hardware is out in the public. They want to sell Mario and Ninja Gaiden. They don't want to sabotage 3rd party support.
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Nintendo also makes a lot of money off of hardware. That's why their hardware is dated.


Not on the Wii U they aren't. They are selling it at a loss, so they need the software sales to make any profit. If people can't get the console they aren't going to buy the software. Its in their best interests to get as many consoles as possible out there.
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#45NerdimusPrimePosted 11/10/2012 7:43:31 AM
Deluxe? most likely sold out, going to be difficult to find. Basic? If you want one, I think you'll find one without resorting to the parasitic vermin known as scalpers.
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#46GAMER_X_REVIVAL(Topic Creator)Posted 11/10/2012 12:06:28 PM
Keyeszx posted...
GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
lionheart5656 posted...
You have no idea how business works and seeing as you are always completely set on whatever you think the answer is, I'm not going to bother trying to convince you otherwise.


Like another poster just said, they received alot of negative backlash from consumers with the Wii launch, running ads when they were well sold out for long periods. It would be pretty dumb to repeat that error. Most people that walk into a store to bang out their holiday shopping, depending on it being there because its being advertised, if its not there and they get stiffed after they already traveled out to the store, they're going to be pissed. And that's when people get childish and vindictive. "I'll just get billy a ps3 instead, **** Nintendo I cant believe they are advertising something that's sold out!! The nerve!!"


You may not have worked with the general public, but I have, and in many different facets and different types of stores. Game stores, clothing, food. And they're all the same. Full of themselves, set on what they wanted when they came in, and if they cant have it, they throw a 2 year olds tantrum, and if that doesnt get them what they want because its physically impossible, they go for the spite shot. They're gonna spite someone, and in this case, they would buy something else to 'screw nintendo out of a sale, they just lost a customer HMMPPH!!'


Believe me, its a really ****ty idea to be constantly running ads with the launch date IN the ads if you arent gonna have a healthy supply on hand for walk ins. Its a great way to do some PR suicide. I do know how business works, because I had to manage a dept and every job is the same when it comes to not pissing off customers and doing everything to make new ones, hold onto them, and keep them happy. Advertising something you know isn't gonna be in stock, when you know WELL in advance it wont be in stock, is a HUGE no no. Its a no contest, and it goes without saying.


This time the Wii U is the most expensive holiday offering, whereas the Wii was the cheapest. If Nintendo doesnt have product for walk ins that see the commercials, they're gonna have lots of cheaper alternatives to snap up instead. THAT, would be a very poor business move.


So either Nintendo is completely and utterly braindead, or the fanboys are ultra naive and bought into a hype train to sell as many pre orders as possible, and there really will be a good amount extra on hand for walk ins. I'm fine with either scenario lol


Your idea of people is so wrong. Please stop making threads and posting idiotic things.


Pretty much every job I've had has been dealing with the general public en masse on a daily basis. And in all the main sectors people buy products in as well. Food, clothing, technology. My description fits the mass majority to a T. Unless you'd like to suggest I've been living in a magic oasis land and it was all an illusion, and they weren't real people.

Try leaving the house more often and you'll learn how the general public really is. A small minority of the population is decent, and the rest are as immature, ignorant and unintelligent as they come. Or you can keep believing the fantasy you have in your head about how most people are.

Realities a *****, hate to break it to you.
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#47GLDanzegoPosted 11/10/2012 12:14:41 PM
I haven't combed through all the hate in this thread to see if I'm posting something that already has been, but....

Just because there may be units available on launch day outside of preorders doesn't mean that the potential to turn a profit from scalping a system is gone. After all, it IS the Christmas season and common sense should tell you that those non-preordered systems can (and mostly likely will) sell out, too. Where do you suppose anyone who hasn't gotten a Wii U after they're gone will turn to, especially the closer it gets to Christmas?

That's right: those systems sitting on Ebay and Craiglist.

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#48GAMER_X_REVIVAL(Topic Creator)Posted 11/10/2012 1:28:20 PM(edited)
GLDanzego posted...
I haven't combed through all the hate in this thread to see if I'm posting something that already has been, but....

Just because there may be units available on launch day outside of preorders doesn't mean that the potential to turn a profit from scalping a system is gone. After all, it IS the Christmas season and common sense should tell you that those non-preordered systems can (and mostly likely will) sell out, too. Where do you suppose anyone who hasn't gotten a Wii U after they're gone will turn to, especially the closer it gets to Christmas?

That's right: those systems sitting on Ebay and Craiglist.

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The problem with that equation is that works when the product is that holiday seasons "Hot must have" item. Like furby way back when, tickle me elmo, and the original Wii. Wii U has no real hype to speak of in the mainstream, outside of seeing the all too short commercial where you barely get a look at it, most people have no idea wtf it is. Hell if I was just a member of the general public and had seen the commercial, I would think its a controller add-on. I wouldnt even think its a new system, because they never say in the commercial its a new console, new system, or anything.

Most people are going to think, going off the commercial, that its just a Wii redesign (like the newer outer shell on the 360) that has a controller with a screen on it packed in. Shoving the weakest possible game visually into the commercials, Mario U, was a huge mistake because in a commercial that brief, showing a game with the BEST visual fidelity possible, or several, like ZombieU or Mass Effect 3, would of helped distinguish in peoples minds that this is not a Wii with a different controller.


The Wii U is most likely gonne start off with weak sales, since only nintendo enthusiasts and fairly engrained gamers know what the hell it actually is at this point, 8 days from launch.


They waited way too long to advertise the thing. They should of been buying spots in big mainstream publications to run stories to explain the thing. Late nite with Jimmy Fallon where he actually confuses it as a controller add-on was really not close to the kind of exposure the console needed pre-launch.


Its not me hating on nintendo, I just don't see there being much steam at launch. They're trying the Wii supply chain manipulation tactic again trying to make lightning strike twice, but the market, the economy and everything is just too different from when the Wii launched for that kind of strategy to work again. Its only going to hurt them this time unfortunately
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#49libatakoPosted 11/10/2012 1:20:21 PM
hope supply and demand bites them in the ass this time.....

they better have alot in stock....or at least send to stores asap
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#50mhunterchumpPosted 11/10/2012 1:20:23 PM
GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
GLDanzego posted...
I haven't combed through all the hate in this thread to see if I'm posting something that already has been, but....

Just because there may be units available on launch day outside of preorders doesn't mean that the potential to turn a profit from scalping a system is gone. After all, it IS the Christmas season and common sense should tell you that those non-preordered systems can (and mostly likely will) sell out, too. Where do you suppose anyone who hasn't gotten a Wii U after they're gone will turn to, especially the closer it gets to Christmas?

That's right: those systems sitting on Ebay and Craiglist.

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The problem with that equation is that works when the product is that holiday seasons "Hot must have" item. Like furby way back when, tickle me elmo, and the original Wii. Wii U has no real hype to speak of in the mainstream, outside of seeing the all too short commercial where you barely get a look at it, most people have no idea wtf it is. Hell if I was just a member of the general public and had seen the commercial, I would think its a controller add-on. I wouldnt even think its a new system, because they never say in the commercial its a new console, new system, or anything.

Most people are going to think, going off the commercial, that its just a Wii redesign (like the newer outer shell on the 360) that has a controller with a screen on it packed in. Shoving the weakest possible game visually into the commercials, Mario U, was a huge mistake because in a commercial that brief, showing a game with the BEST visual fidelity possible, or several, like ZombieU or Mass Effect 3, would of helped distinguish in peoples minds that this is not a Wii with a different controller.


The Wii U is most likely gonne start off with weak sales, since only nintendo enthusiasts and fairly engrained gamers know what the hell it actually is at this point, 8 days from launch.


They waited way too long to advertise the thing. They should of been buying spots in big mainstream publications to run stories to explain the thing. Late nite with Jimmy Fallon where he actually confuses it as a controller add-on was really not close to the kind of exposure the console needed pre-launch.


Its not me hating on nintendo, I just don't see there being much steam at launch. They're trying to Wii supply chain manipulation tactic again trying to make lightning strike twice, but the market, the economy and everything is just too different from when the Wii launched for that kind of strategy to work again. Its only going to hurt them this time unfortunately


First you say Nintendo should stop running ads because the "general public" you know so well from working retail will buy a different product when its sold out.

And now you say they didn't run enough ads and that the economy is different so people won't buy it?

So which is it?
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