"Better hardware doesn't make better games"

#31BuretsuPosted 12/2/2012 11:04:56 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Motion and touchscreen controls will be standard next gen. Voice control isn't far behind.


Then gaming will die. GG, no re.


How do you figure?


It's simple. Motion controls are horrible.


Maybe to you.


To most people. Seriously, the sooner this fad ends, the better everything will be. Motion controls add nothing to gaming. They're a gimmick that has no potential to become anything more.
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#32ZimbabweBobPosted 12/2/2012 11:06:36 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Motion and touchscreen controls will be standard next gen. Voice control isn't far behind.


Then gaming will die. GG, no re.


How do you figure?


It's simple. Motion controls are hard for me because i lack coordination.


that's closer to the truth.
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#33_Candice_Posted 12/2/2012 11:07:34 PM
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How so? There are countless games from previous generations that are regarded as being vastly superior to a lot of newer gen titles. This proves that hardware doesn't make the game. It makes the console better, yes. But not the games.


When people bring up the Wiis CPU power most Nintenfans say devs havent experimented enough with the limits of the architecture to make it seem like theres more to it. Like youre obviously not gonna run GameCube games on a N64. Hardware has tangible limits. Optimization isnt some magic word.

Better hardware allows for more complex AI, physics, uncompressed audio, better polygons, textures, bigger terrain. It grants more headroom for other things than graphics. So it directly affects how much better the games are gonna be.

Also, people regard older games as superior because creativity is on a big decline. Companies would rather try to crank out more cash with less effort. Especially Nintendo. The Wii was living proof of this.
#34BuretsuPosted 12/2/2012 11:10:58 PM
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#35darkqueenhelbaPosted 12/2/2012 11:10:02 PM
The hardware should be able to match the experience the company touts. No more, no less. That's what's important. The focus this time around is obviously the gamepad. It needs to perform efficiently and offer unique experiences with little to no technical complications. If it can manage that, it accomplished it's mission. Some of the people here don't think very realistically. Nor do they think in the same league as a hardware/software engineer. That's why they PLAY the games and the developers make them. I'm sure there are a few Buster Browns in-the-know, but they're few and far between.
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#36jairusmonillasPosted 12/2/2012 11:12:27 PM
Wii never had any better games, Wii U doesn't have any at all.
#373khc(Topic Creator)Posted 12/3/2012 12:09:00 AM
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Even if Nintendo had the most powerful cpu, gpu, ram etc , it wouldn't make a difference.
Mario would still be the same old tired Mario. Nintendo doesn't need power or 3rd party. As long as they keep pumping out a game with Mario in the title each year, the system will sell and they know it.
Not trolling, bought every Nintendo system at launch since 64.


Mario is indeed a powerful seller, as is many of Nintendo's starting lineup, but they are promising to return appealing to core gamers. I have faith that they'll get satisfactory third party support.

It won't be just Mario carrying this system.
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#38BluntGruntPosted 12/3/2012 12:42:09 AM
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True, but that's not the point of a new console.


Yes, it is. New console = new games and sometimes new ways to play. That's all there is. If you want awesome hardware just stick to the PC.
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#393khc(Topic Creator)Posted 12/3/2012 12:44:20 AM
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I have no doubt that nintendo will produce stellar titles for the WiiU. What I'm worried about is the fate of Nintendo after the PS4 and 720 announce their touchscreen controllers.


They are? All I hear is Next box will have Kinect built in, or some crap and PS4 is going to have balls on their controller, that can separate.

Neither sound enticing.


Just a prediction. Would you really be surprised considering how three PS360 implemented motion controls into their system after seeing the Wii?


Just like how Wii was successful, and then both Microsoft and Sony "copied" Nintendo's motion control popularity in hopes of capturing their own crowd, the same will happene again if Wii Sells as well.

It's not so much as they copied nintendo, but more so that they realized the direction that the future of gaming is headed. Same with the touchscreen. And it won't be based on the sales. Regardless of the WiiU's success, I'm certain that both Sony and Microsoft will try their hand at tablet controllers.
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#403khc(Topic Creator)Posted 12/3/2012 1:16:48 AM(edited)
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I think that better hardware with better graphics do make for better games. I would much rather play Mass Effect than Kotor. Why? Because the power of the Xbox 360 makes Mass Effect a more immersive world due to better graphics. Xbox Kotor is primitive compared to Xbox 360 Mass Effect due to console power.

Apparently, the cool thing to say these days is that graphics and hardware power don't matter much though. I guess people feel cool saying that, because you must be cool if do not seek a powerful console. You are a hypocrite if you state that graphics and hardware power is not what you seek. That's exactly what you seek.


The whole "more immersive world make for a better game" is a valid point, but i thought i covered this when i said the only thing left to do is to make games bigger and better, which is what this is. Nevertheless, your post brings up the age old question of "what exactly makes a video game good/better?"

And people have been saying graphics don't matter for decades. It's been only recently (last gen, actually) that i noticed people begin to deviate from this mindset. I figure part of it has to do with the gap between the Wii and the PS360. Many disliked the Wii for its poor visuals in comparison and realized that graphics do matter at least a little bit.
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