Nintendo confirms German law to blame for Europe-wide Wii U eShop 18+ content re

#31FoppePosted 12/10/2012 4:23:01 AM
squatch22 posted...
Buretsu posted...
Eoin posted...
AwesomeOSauce posted...
Eoin = PWND

He has been defending Germany on this board for days....

There is no defensible reason for Nintendo putting themselves in a position where German law has to apply to all of Europe. It is beyond belief that people think Nintendo should escape any blame for this.


German servers, German laws. It's incredible that people think that Nintendo should carry all the blame for this.


Its Nintendo. They like to blame them for everything.
Id bet the trolls would blame them for WW2 and JFK if they could.


Nintendo supported the Axis Powers during WWII.
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#32IcecreamdunwichPosted 12/10/2012 4:23:08 AM
Still wondering how other services get around this without doing it like Nintendo is...
#33FoppePosted 12/10/2012 4:25:09 AM
Icecreamdunwich posted...
Still wondering how other services get around this without doing it like Nintendo is...


Probably by having the server outside the country, moving the office to another country and putting up a age gate.
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#34IcecreamdunwichPosted 12/10/2012 4:26:16 AM
From: Foppe | #033
Icecreamdunwich posted...
Still wondering how other services get around this without doing it like Nintendo is...


Probably by having the server outside the country, moving the office to another country and putting up a age gate.


What some users have said on this board is that in Germany they simply made it so no one under 18 can buy the point cards. Much better solution than a time limit like this, which is simply ridiculous.
#35darkjedilinkPosted 12/10/2012 4:28:15 AM
mcsmellington posted...
Buretsu posted...
Eoin posted...
AwesomeOSauce posted...
Eoin = PWND

He has been defending Germany on this board for days....

There is no defensible reason for Nintendo putting themselves in a position where German law has to apply to all of Europe. It is beyond belief that people think Nintendo should escape any blame for this.


German servers, German laws. It's incredible that people think that Nintendo should carry all the blame for this.


I think the point is that if these are the kind of restrictions that Nintendo are going to be under, they need to move their servers or whatever it is that's causing the problem.

It's just bad business. They say they want to recapture the 'core' gamers, but things like this reinforce their 'kiddy' image, it obviously has affected people due to the multitudes of complaints, and surely having everyone cram onto the servers between 11 and 3 is going to put unnecessary pressure on the infrastructure.

I can't see it being a problem at the moment, but if they want any exclusive download tittles, then it'll be an issue.


It's not the servers - they'd have to move the entire NoE operation out of Germany. By NoE being based in Germany, everything NoE is responsible for must abide by German law. As such, even if they moved the servers somewhere else, as long as NoE's office is in Germany, they still gotta watershed the servers.

Do YOU got that kind of cash laying around?
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#36mcsmellingtonPosted 12/10/2012 4:29:59 AM
darkjedilink posted...
mcsmellington posted...
Buretsu posted...
Eoin posted...
AwesomeOSauce posted...
Eoin = PWND

He has been defending Germany on this board for days....

There is no defensible reason for Nintendo putting themselves in a position where German law has to apply to all of Europe. It is beyond belief that people think Nintendo should escape any blame for this.


German servers, German laws. It's incredible that people think that Nintendo should carry all the blame for this.


I think the point is that if these are the kind of restrictions that Nintendo are going to be under, they need to move their servers or whatever it is that's causing the problem.

It's just bad business. They say they want to recapture the 'core' gamers, but things like this reinforce their 'kiddy' image, it obviously has affected people due to the multitudes of complaints, and surely having everyone cram onto the servers between 11 and 3 is going to put unnecessary pressure on the infrastructure.

I can't see it being a problem at the moment, but if they want any exclusive download tittles, then it'll be an issue.


It's not the servers - they'd have to move the entire NoE operation out of Germany. By NoE being based in Germany, everything NoE is responsible for must abide by German law. As such, even if they moved the servers somewhere else, as long as NoE's office is in Germany, they still gotta watershed the servers.

Do YOU got that kind of cash laying around?


Ah fair enough, yeah that'd be a pretty big operation.

I haven't seen you post in a while, there was a good quote from you floating around last night.
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#37blankempathyPosted 12/10/2012 4:37:48 AM
AwesomeOSauce posted...
Nintendo needs to learn how to internet correctly >_<

Seriously they need to fire whoever handles their online network and servers and try to get some young guys that used to work for Microsoft, Sony, Steam etc.... that know what the f*** they are doing.

A smart company would:

Let just block IP consoles from Germany to access this content so then we follow their laws. BUT for all other European countries that are not so uber conservative lets allow them to not have these restrictions just like PSN, Steam and XBL.

But a company like Nintendo does:

>our servers are in Germany?
>we have an online shop
>well lets comply to German law and censor for all European countries where this law doesn't apply derp!
>just for fun lets not do this in Japan or North America.

>_< somebody needs to get slapped.


smh.

The NoE HQ is physically located in Germany, thats where they operate out of. That is why they're following Germany's rules. Could they possible get around this in the future? Maybe only time will tell.
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#38EoinPosted 12/10/2012 4:41:12 AM
Buretsu posted...
German servers, German laws.

If the result of having German servers is this kind of restriction, then the solution is not to have German servers.

Buretsu posted...
It's incredible that people think that Nintendo should carry all the blame for this.

I don't think anyone is saying that. Nintendo are only to blame for the restrictions applying outside of Germany. Inside of Germany, German laws can be blamed.

darkjedilink posted...
It's not the servers - they'd have to move the entire NoE operation out of Germany.

Not true. They could delegate control over the European eShop to Nintendo of America. If they were really smart about that, they could even move their eShop team to being NoA employees that were working externally from an NoE location and have them perform their duties "remotely".

Or they could outsource management to a company elsewhere in Europe.

Despite these alternatives, moving the entirety of NoE outside of Germany should, at this stage, now be a priority for Nintendo. This restriction is damaging to them, and to their relationship with publishers and with customers, and they are going to be compared to Sony and Microsoft, who have no such restrictions, and "oh it's German law, can't do anything at all about that whatsoever" is - rightfully - not going to be looked on as a good enough excuse.
#39bond465Posted 12/10/2012 4:41:24 AM
Hmm wonder how psn and xbl got around it?
#40AwesomeOSaucePosted 12/10/2012 4:41:34 AM
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