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How many titles actually sell a million plus units in a given year?
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Baha05 posted... That's the point of second hand markets the companies aren't suppose to get money from it. If that's the point, then the second hand market isn't just bad in practice, it's inherently bad. It is bad, not by execution, but by nature. If that's the point, then I'm not exactly fond of the point. --- *(int *)nullptr = 0;http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ | |
I can't believe this guy compared reselling cars and houses to a video game and the resell of DVDs and music is extremely low compared to video games I can't believe you can't believe it. It is the exact same principle. Make reselling illegal on any good, and the market responds accordingly. | |
shadestreet posted... I can't believe this guy compared reselling cars and houses to a video game Difference for automobiles and houses. Large amounts of money paid, if you can't sell a car you'll not be able to buy a new car. If you have to sell a game to buy a new game, you need a job --- To be fair, the bible has more plot holes than ME3. I wouldn't be listening either - Pies12 | |
Personally, I'd much rather support gamestop who is bring jobs and a place to shop for games into my community, than publishers like Activision that if not for gamestop would charge even more money for a new game. 10, 5, or even 1 dollar off a game that works the same way once its in the console is a welcome savings to me. In fact, even my Wii U was bought used. --- If I support the game company, then I won't be supporting the blank DVD business. | |
Large amounts of money paid, if you can't sell a car you'll not be able to buy a new car. If you have to sell a game to buy a new game, you need a job So at what price point is the line drawn then? Where should we make the resale of an item illegal? Should it be at $70? $100 dollars? $500? $2000? I assume the pricepoint must be at least as high as $500 - in order to ban the resale of game consoles as well. I could just as easily say if you need to resell your car to buy a new one, then you need a better job - parting with $20,000 shouldn't be that big of an issue unless you make under six figures. People buy things, whether it is a game, a watch, a car, because they know they can get something back for it should they ever decide they didn't want it any more - whether to upgrade to something else, get some cash, or they suffer from buyers remorse. Perhaps the sticker shock of a House is making this tough to equate (it shouldn't), so let us use something like an Omega watch, which at mid tier can set you back $3,000. Should it be illegal for me to resell my watch if I decide I want a Tissot instead? I would, after all, be robbing Omega of money by reselling it. I don't really understand how you can isolate one type of product and say it hurts the manufacturer, but ignore it for everything else that is a non consumable product. | |
banjo kazooie posted... If that's the point, then the second hand market isn't just bad in practice, it's inherently bad. It is bad, not by execution, but by nature. If that's the point, then I'm not exactly fond of the point. Except it's not bad at all, I buy an item, I wish to resell said item (as long as it's within the law anyhow) it's my right to resell it to anyone I want. It doesn't hurt anyone at all to resell a product. No company has ever went out of business because there is a second hand market for these things. Most companies go out of business because of poor decisions. Just look at Sega with their hardware, poor decisions was one of the big downfalls for them. --- "Gamestop will not be around in 10 years because physical games will no longer exist, it'll all be digital" Xeeh_Bitz | |
Xeeh_Bitz posted... 1shadetail1 posted...silverbullt posted...1shadetail1 posted...It *is* a bad business strategy. And it's precisely the reason why so many game developers went out of business over the past six-ish years. They made games with ridiculously massive budgets that needed to sell anywhere from 2-to-3 million copies just to break even, and of course they frequently never made it. So of course, the developer ended up going bust. people have been buying used games for years, only thing now is that companies can keep track of it so they can complain --- Pro tip : Thats not how I would do it | |
Granted I am being borderline douche in using my penchant for expensive timepieces to drive the point home, but I think you are also in the wrong for dismissing anyone who cannot buy videogames with reckless abandon as "needing a job". Paying 60 dollars for a videogame when you are a college student is tough. Paying 60 dollars as a single parent to make your child happy at Christmas is tough. This is not an inexpensive hobby, and if you remove the ability of resale, the market would act accordingly, just like it would in any other product - iPad, watch, car, house. What would happen in this completely implausible scenario where resale of games is essentially nothing at all - I had a long response written detailing but just deleted - the market would play out and in the end developers would take fewer risks as consumers rarely make "splurge" purchases, prices would fall, etc, you should be able to think this through so I won't waste time typing. | |
people have been buying used games for years, only thing now is that companies can keep track of it so they can complain And this should have ended the topic right there - I shouldn't even have to discuss economics or make satirical posts. As long as there have been gaming consoles, there have been used game sales. I used to buy NES and SNES games used from Babbages, Blockbuster, FuncoLand, etc. I don't understand how this is being framed as some recent epidemic just because Gametop acquired most of the smaller regional chains. Should we also ban renting games, like Nintendo desperately tried to do in the 80's? This whole topic got derailed by lunacy. | |
shadestreet posted... people have been buying used games for years, only thing now is that companies can keep track of it so they can complain Problem isn't used games problem is people buying used games for 5 bucks less then full price day after launch. |
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