Were the graphics for this console overstimated?

#21BigAl519Posted 12/19/2012 4:03:12 PM
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#22lt519Posted 12/19/2012 4:03:22 PM
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#23DiscostewSMPosted 12/19/2012 4:03:59 PM
In comparison, the Wii U's graphics of launch titles right now beat the launch title graphics from the PS3 and 360. PS3 and 360 games now look better than their launch titles, but that's because of 6-7 years of figuring out the hardware. Give that much time with the Wii U, and it'll improve in the same manner.
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#24ugoo18Posted 12/19/2012 4:05:55 PM
silverbullt posted...
Enigma149 posted...
silverbullt posted...
There have been just as manydevs claiming the Wii U to be weaker.


Name three.


Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=developers+claim+wii+u+to+be+weaker&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=


So majority of faceless devs vs named devs who say otherwise....

Double standards at work here, we've had numerous NAMED devs say otherwise but what do they know in the face of those nameless devs.

What do Crytek, Gearbox, Valve, 5th Cell, Shinen and Frozenbyte know.

Gabe Newell “Wii U seems to be a lot more powerful than the previous generation"

http://nintendoeverything.com/68124/valve-wii-u-appears-to-be-more-powerful-than-last-gen-fits-into-our-scalability/


Crytek CEO: Wii U hardware is "minimum on par with the current generation."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/354624/crytek-estimates-wii-u-is-minimum-as-powerful-as-xbox-360/

Wondering how Cryengine 3 runs on the WiiU

"Beautifully" according to Crytek

http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/06/20/crytek-cryengine-3-beautiful-on-wii-u


Gearbox: Wii U is a true next-gen console and will provide the best looking version of Aliens: Colonial Marines.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gearbox-best-looking-version-of-aliens-on-wii-u-best-controller-from-nintendo


5th Cell: Wii U is "definitely more powerful than PS3 & 360"

http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/scribblenauts_unlimited/news/wii_u_is_definitely_more_powerful_than_360_and_ps3_scribblenauts_dev.html


Shinen: "I can only assure that the Wii U GPU feature set allows to do many cool things that are not possible on any current console. The Wii U has enough of potential for the next years to create jaw-dropping visuals."

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/11/03/shinen-mega-interview-harnessing-the-wii-u-power/


Off the top of my head the only named dev with a serious issue with the console is 4A games and they (According to THQ) only ever touched the earliest of dev kits, meaning they have little to no experience whatsoever with the actual final machine.
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#25silverbulltPosted 12/19/2012 4:09:10 PM
ugoo18 posted...
silverbullt posted...
Enigma149 posted...
silverbullt posted...
There have been just as manydevs claiming the Wii U to be weaker.


Name three.


Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=developers+claim+wii+u+to+be+weaker&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=


So majority of faceless devs vs named devs who say otherwise....

..

Off the top of my head the only named dev with a serious issue with the console is 4A games and they (According to THQ) only ever touched the earliest of dev kits, meaning they have little to no experience whatsoever with the actual final machine.


You're just grasping at straws now.
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#26Greendragon854Posted 12/19/2012 4:11:14 PM
From: BigAl519 | #021
silverbullt posted...
BigAl519 posted...
Sailor Goon posted...
Its not exactly a feat if a new system can compare graphically with a 5 year old system. I very much doubt the graphics will improve much over the PS3, especially with the poor CPU bottlenecking the whole system.


Hey its the hypocrite! This guy here has spent the last year and a half defending the Vita against trolls and carrying on about how people who bash systems are losers! Amazing to find you on here doing the same thing!

Anyways, since he is also new to gaming and system launches, here is an idea of just how much graphics change over the course of a systems life.

Release game
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/643/643884/perfect-dark-zero-20050820024011628_640w.jpg

New game
http://www.onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/halo_4_in_game_gameinformer_4.jpg

And this is what the Wii U is at for launch game graphics
http://images.vg247.com/current//2012/09/trine-2-wii-u-4.jpg

Now imagine the same leap that the Xbox 360 had between those first two games graphically and imagine what games for the Wii U will look like in a few years.

Oh and Trine 2 for the Wii U (the 3rd screen) runs at 60fps and 1080p, something neither the PS3/360 or even a mid-ranged PC can accomplish.


Big RED FLAG here with this reasoning.

So allow me to enlighten you.

There will be no graphic leap for the Wii U 2 years down the road because it's been 90% exhausted already. The reason games look on par with Ps360 is that devs already spent half a decade perfecting tech that is representative of the full potential of the Wii U hardware wise.

They had to start from scratch with the Ps360, they already had the Wii U maxed out before it even came to be.


LMAO This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums today, congrats on that! I always love reading the amount of crap you pull out of your ass! You know, making blind statements without any actual reasoning or proof behind it just makes you look even more like a moron.


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#27RedOrionPosted 12/19/2012 4:11:43 PM
silverbullt posted...
ugoo18 posted...
silverbullt posted...
Enigma149 posted...
silverbullt posted...
There have been just as manydevs claiming the Wii U to be weaker.


Name three.


Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=developers+claim+wii+u+to+be+weaker&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=


So majority of faceless devs vs named devs who say otherwise....

..

Off the top of my head the only named dev with a serious issue with the console is 4A games and they (According to THQ) only ever touched the earliest of dev kits, meaning they have little to no experience whatsoever with the actual final machine.


You're just grasping at straws now.


He gave you sources and you choose the ignore them. again, who is really grasping at straws?
#28ugoo18Posted 12/19/2012 4:12:27 PM
silverbullt posted...
ugoo18 posted...
silverbullt posted...
Enigma149 posted...
silverbullt posted...
There have been just as manydevs claiming the Wii U to be weaker.


Name three.


Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=developers+claim+wii+u+to+be+weaker&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=


So majority of faceless devs vs named devs who say otherwise....

..

Off the top of my head the only named dev with a serious issue with the console is 4A games and they (According to THQ) only ever touched the earliest of dev kits, meaning they have little to no experience whatsoever with the actual final machine.


You're just grasping at straws now.


You just described your own response perfectly.

Go ahead and fire off all those named devs apart from the one i named who had serious issues with the WiiU.

Or is the best you can do pointing at so called devs who spout lines like it doesn't have enough shaders.
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#29silverbulltPosted 12/19/2012 4:12:29 PM
BigAl519 posted...
silverbullt posted...
BigAl519 posted...
Sailor Goon posted...
Its not exactly a feat if a new system can compare graphically with a 5 year old system. I very much doubt the graphics will improve much over the PS3, especially with the poor CPU bottlenecking the whole system.


Hey its the hypocrite! This guy here has spent the last year and a half defending the Vita against trolls and carrying on about how people who bash systems are losers! Amazing to find you on here doing the same thing!

Anyways, since he is also new to gaming and system launches, here is an idea of just how much graphics change over the course of a systems life.

Release game
http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/643/643884/perfect-dark-zero-20050820024011628_640w.jpg

New game
http://www.onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/halo_4_in_game_gameinformer_4.jpg

And this is what the Wii U is at for launch game graphics
http://images.vg247.com/current//2012/09/trine-2-wii-u-4.jpg

Now imagine the same leap that the Xbox 360 had between those first two games graphically and imagine what games for the Wii U will look like in a few years.

Oh and Trine 2 for the Wii U (the 3rd screen) runs at 60fps and 1080p, something neither the PS3/360 or even a mid-ranged PC can accomplish.


Big RED FLAG here with this reasoning.

So allow me to enlighten you.

There will be no graphic leap for the Wii U 2 years down the road because it's been 90% exhausted already. The reason games look on par with Ps360 is that devs already spent half a decade perfecting tech that is representative of the full potential of the Wii U hardware wise.

They had to start from scratch with the Ps360, they already had the Wii U maxed out before it even came to be.


LMAO This might be the dumbest thing I have read on these forums today, congrats on that! I always love reading the amount of crap you pull out of your ass! You know, making blind statements without any actual reasoning or proof behind it just makes you look even more like a moron.


In other words, since you're incapable of refuting my argument logically, you resort to personal attacks!

/reported
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#30DiscostewSMPosted 12/19/2012 4:17:41 PM
silverbullt posted...
ugoo18 posted...
silverbullt posted...
Enigma149 posted...
silverbullt posted...
There have been just as manydevs claiming the Wii U to be weaker.


Name three.


Take your pick

http://www.google.com/search?q=developers+claim+wii+u+to+be+weaker&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=


So majority of faceless devs vs named devs who say otherwise....

..

Off the top of my head the only named dev with a serious issue with the console is 4A games and they (According to THQ) only ever touched the earliest of dev kits, meaning they have little to no experience whatsoever with the actual final machine.


You're just grasping at straws now.


Says the person who posts a link that has the first result mentioning claims made by "anonymous" developers. Obviously if it were true, they'd have no need to hide themselves, unlike the links posted against your claim.
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