I just read that Nintendo sells Wii U consoles at a loss

#11DemonDog666Posted 12/20/2012 10:01:55 PM(edited)
cheechmooster posted...
So I was doing some Google searches and reading about the Wii U I just bought when I stumbled upon some startling information. Here i was thinking about the profits Nintendo is making and how much money they are saving by not including Blu-ray or even a dvd player in the Wii U when I discovered that Nintendo is actually losing money on each console sold according to Nintendo chief "Satoru Iwata". How did a company like Nintendo get such a bad deal on the manufacturing of their Wii U consoles? Using Google shopping I found a Blu-ray player for $26 and a DVD player for $20 dollars. Combined with the cheap plastic they used to make the gamepad and console itself, plus the battery they put in the gamepad, how are they losing money? I can't imagine a company manufacturing an item paying anywhere near $20 for a Blu-ray or DVD player. What aspect of making the Wii U do you think Nintendo lost the money on?


They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.)

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.
#12silverbulltPosted 12/20/2012 10:04:37 PM
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.
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#13AhnoldDoodPosted 12/20/2012 10:06:08 PM
silverbullt posted...
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.


Because a random guy on the internet who doesn't know his way out of a paper bag MUST know everything about console development. Maybe you may want to do RESEARCH to see if he's right?

Then again, you listen to Pachter.
#14jeffhardyroxPosted 12/20/2012 10:07:21 PM
silverbullt posted...
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.

Nintendo is doing this for a reason: piracy. If so many people didn't use the Wii's easily hackable nature to pirate games, then we probably would have a blu-ray drive. it will be very difficult to burn wii u games once the system gets hacked or modded. And, piracy is also the reason why the system is as expensive as it is right now.
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#15silverbulltPosted 12/20/2012 10:09:41 PM
AhnoldDood posted...
silverbullt posted...
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.


Because a random guy on the internet who doesn't know his way out of a paper bag MUST know everything about console development. Maybe you may want to do RESEARCH to see if he's right?

Then again, you listen to Pachter.


Oh so now Nintendo fanboys can be wrong? Priceless
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#16silverbulltPosted 12/20/2012 10:11:12 PM
jeffhardyrox posted...
silverbullt posted...
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.

Nintendo is doing this for a reason: piracy. If so many people didn't use the Wii's easily hackable nature to pirate games, then we probably would have a blu-ray drive. it will be very difficult to burn wii u games once the system gets hacked or modded. And, piracy is also the reason why the system is as expensive as it is right now.


That's what SHE said about the Dreamcast's GD-ROM. Look where that got Sega.
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#17AhnoldDoodPosted 12/20/2012 10:12:01 PM
silverbullt posted...
Oh so now Nintendo fanboys can be wrong?


Implying that DemonDog666's a fanboy. Or do you just label anyone who pays attention to Nintendo as a "fanboy"?
#18DemonDog666Posted 12/20/2012 10:13:18 PM
jeffhardyrox posted...
Nintendo is doing this for a reason: piracy. If so many people didn't use the Wii's easily hackable nature to pirate games, then we probably would have a blu-ray drive. it will be very difficult to burn wii u games once the system gets hacked or modded. And, piracy is also the reason why the system is as expensive as it is right now.


Don't kid yourself, it'd be the same price Nintendo would just be making money on it. And piracy doesn't explain the lack of playing dvd movies, that's just being cheap and blu rays already have pretty good anti piracy unlike dvds.
#19geneticsftwPosted 12/20/2012 10:13:47 PM
silverbullt posted...
AhnoldDood posted...
silverbullt posted...
DemonDog666 posted...
cheechmooster posted...

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They are avoiding licensing fees for blu ray and dvd's but the actual drive they are using is proprietary and actually costs more then a blu ray drive (and is capable of playing dvds but they just don't because of lisencing fees that Nintendo won't pay.

In addition to that the controller costs Nintendo 100 to make and they in general can't mass produce stuff as cheap as Sony/MS.


How the hell does this even make sense? If the drive is gonna cost more up front, probably a couple of bucks, that's money that could have gone into blu-ray royalties(which BTW are dirty cheap now).

COUNT on Nintendo to make stupid business decisions.


Because a random guy on the internet who doesn't know his way out of a paper bag MUST know everything about console development. Maybe you may want to do RESEARCH to see if he's right?

Then again, you listen to Pachter.


Oh so now Nintendo fanboys can be wrong? Priceless

Wise man
#20Tsutarja495Posted 12/20/2012 10:17:32 PM
I'm glad Nintendo doesn't include a DVD/Blueray player in their consoles. I just want something that plays games, no need for extra stuff like that which raises the price.