btw - my favorite Mario games:
2D: Super Mario World
3D: Super Mario Sunshine
Linetrix posted...Uhh, Nintendo games get high rates only for being slightly different than past games..
Paper Mario: SS was a piece of s***.
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Sunshine got bashed for straying from the formula. I'll give you the new super mario bros series, but putting Galaxy in with that is just trolling.
squatch22 posted...Linetrix posted...Uhh, Nintendo games get high rates only for being slightly different than past games..
The only reason people think this is because it was different. It's just like SPM. Well, maybe not the only reason, but it's definitely one of the major ones.
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It's getting to the point where innovation is overrated. So many games that had potential...wasted on this word.
It's funny, I remember two-three E3's where Reggie on stage said similar things to this post. People want what they've always wanted, but they also want those expectations blown. They want something new, but familiar. Ever notice when describing a game, you usually use another game as an example? "How's that game, Recettear? Oh, it's like Animal Crossing, but a Dungeon Crawler." or "What's that Halo 4 game? It's like a mix of Metroid Prime and Call of Duty."
Originality is hard to come by, and developers are constantly struggling to give something new and familiar- going for something completely new is risky and almost never sells. Look at new IP's from Square Enix, or even Nintendo- they bomb. But look at them using familiar characters for new ideas like Kirby Mass Attack. Replace Kirby with an original character, and that would be a "new IP" in the eyes of the public. I guarantee it would not have sold as well if they didn't put Kirby on the cover.
People don't think like that though. That's the problem. =( They don't judge a game on it's own merits, but on all other games.
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I find it hilarious that in the generation of CoD, people are picky about innovation from one of the only companies that actually dare to do so once in a while.
In the age of Hollywood production games, you can't afford to lose money by trying every single crazy concept that crosses your mind, unless it's something completely mind blowing. That's why a lot of the innovative stuff comes from indie developers, because they NEED to come up with something that can win against the millionaire games.
And then again, only a very few of these are truly innovative or actually good enough, because a good idea alone is worth nothing if everything else is crap.
By the way, I would say that people who played games on the 80s are adults now (I wish, with the mentality of a lot of people around here, I have my doubts). Adults are much, much harder to please than your average 10 years old; they've saw everything already (or a good part of it). It's hard to amaze someone when they are very acquainted to the tricks of the trade (that's why most RPGs nowadays feels tired and rehashed - we've already played most of those stories already).
So, either get a new hobby, or suck it up.
Why do you play games you don't enjoy? Are you a masochist?
Why do you people drool so much over "innovation"? I don't get it, it's beyond me, and stupid as hell as far as I can see.
We don't want innovation in the sense of a total revamp: just improvements, brand new content(music, enemies, environments, ect), and new features that keep the experience fresh.
I personally would like most Nintendo sequels to do what DKC2 did, that's an example of a near perfect sequel.
More villains need to be protagonists. BiS proves it can work.
Ridley, Ganondorf, Fawful, Bowser, and Dimentio all for their own games!
it also seems the TC ran out of innovation
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Wth has happened to my favourite series
Ya but then the SAME person also complain when it's 95% exactly not the SAME. Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Paper Mario, and Paper Mario: Sticker Star to name a few.
Tsutarja495 posted...NoJobBob posted...Why are you talking about paper mario??? thats completely different
Sunshine was largely hated.
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