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#41SolisPosted 1/6/2013 9:37:40 AM
MathewManson posted...
Eoin posted...
MathewManson posted...
I posted the link for a reason. Emulation of Nintendo systems and games is illegal. It's piracy.

Emulation is fully legal. This has been proven over and over again. There is no special magical standard for Nintendo systems. The link you posted does not say anything about emulation being illegal. If you think it does, read it again. Even if the link did say emulation was illegal, Nintendo cannot contradict the law, which says that emulation is legal.


LOL! Mate, learn to read. Go through it all and actually read it. Provide the law that states emulation is legal? I mean you've failed to do that, at least when I challenged you--I provided actual evidence and not just my word.


The legality of emulation was established in federal court multiple times when Sony tried to block Bleem and Virtual Game Station from being sold but lost every case:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/Sony_v_Bleem.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment,_Inc._v._Connectix_Corporation
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#42MathewMansonPosted 1/6/2013 9:39:03 AM
Solis posted...
MathewManson posted...
Eoin posted...
MathewManson posted...
I posted the link for a reason. Emulation of Nintendo systems and games is illegal. It's piracy.

Emulation is fully legal. This has been proven over and over again. There is no special magical standard for Nintendo systems. The link you posted does not say anything about emulation being illegal. If you think it does, read it again. Even if the link did say emulation was illegal, Nintendo cannot contradict the law, which says that emulation is legal.


LOL! Mate, learn to read. Go through it all and actually read it. Provide the law that states emulation is legal? I mean you've failed to do that, at least when I challenged you--I provided actual evidence and not just my word.


The legality of emulation was established in federal court multiple times when Sony tried to block Bleem and Virtual Game Station from being sold but lost every case:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/Sony_v_Bleem.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment,_Inc._v._Connectix_Corporation


Read above. This is about Ninty.
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#43SolisPosted 1/6/2013 9:42:49 AM
MathewManson posted...
Read above. This is about Ninty.


What? This is about emulation. It doesn't matter what platform is being emulated, they all fall under the same federal jurisdiction.
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#44EoinPosted 1/6/2013 9:50:27 AM
MathewManson posted...
Good boy. You're actually intelligent and KNOW how to read unlike some people. He won't be back now. :(

All he did was copy and paste from the link you had already provided, which does not say that emulators are illegal. It doesn't say that because they are not illegal.

Let me for a moment pretend that you have some intelligence and therefore might be capable of reading the following links and actually comprehending some of them:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_emulators_illegal
http://www.1up.com/features/trials-and-tribulations?pager.offset=2
http://www.patentarcade.com/2009/10/copyright-in-screen-shots-sony-v-bleem.html
http://kaluszka.com/vt/emulation/legal.html
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/363952/retro-games-emulators-the-legal-position
http://meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/795/what-exactly-does-the-law-state-about-emulation-and-roms

Have fun being wrong. Of course, I fully expect more ignorant rubbish from you, but you're running out of ways to repeat posting that page where Nintendo don't say emulation is illegal.
#45EoinPosted 1/6/2013 9:52:37 AM
MathewManson posted...
Read above. This is about Ninty.

When Nintendo Land is a country and not a game, then yeah, I'm totally sure that emulation will be illegal there. However, since we live in the real world, Nintendo systems are not magically legally different from other systems. Emulating them is as legal as emulating other systems. The fact that you unbelievably think otherwise does not lend your argument any credibility.
#46MathewMansonPosted 1/6/2013 9:53:55 AM
Eoin posted...
MathewManson posted...
Good boy. You're actually intelligent and KNOW how to read unlike some people. He won't be back now. :(

All he did was copy and paste from the link you had already provided, which does not say that emulators are illegal. It doesn't say that because they are not illegal.

Let me for a moment pretend that you have some intelligence and therefore might be capable of reading the following links and actually comprehending some of them:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_emulators_illegal
http://www.1up.com/features/trials-and-tribulations?pager.offset=2
http://www.patentarcade.com/2009/10/copyright-in-screen-shots-sony-v-bleem.html
http://kaluszka.com/vt/emulation/legal.html
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/363952/retro-games-emulators-the-legal-position
http://meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/795/what-exactly-does-the-law-state-about-emulation-and-roms

Have fun being wrong. Of course, I fully expect more ignorant rubbish from you, but you're running out of ways to repeat posting that page where Nintendo don't say emulation is illegal.


Copyright. /argument.

If you actually understood the argument, you'd know that we're talking overall whilst thinking of all possible ways to overcome it. I'm not reading anything you post via link as you completely ignored mine until somebody else had a crack at it.
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#47EoinPosted 1/6/2013 9:57:03 AM
MathewManson posted...
If you actually understood the argument, you'd know that we're talking overall whilst thinking of all possible ways to overcome it. I'm not reading anything you post via link as you completely ignored mine until somebody else had a crack at it.

I didn't ignore your silly little link, I pointed out to you why it was irrelevant to the topic.

Let's be clear what the discussion actually is, because you're attempting to change it now that the realisation that you're completely wrong has started to penetrate your silly little skull: you are attempting to say that emulation is illegal by repeatedly posting a link to a Nintendo website which does not say any such thing. I am correcting you, and you're reacting badly to that rather than accepting that you're wrong.

Emulation is legal. ROMs are illegal, but it's completely legal for emulators to be distributed.
#48MathewMansonPosted 1/6/2013 9:58:08 AM
Eoin posted...
MathewManson posted...
If you actually understood the argument, you'd know that we're talking overall whilst thinking of all possible ways to overcome it. I'm not reading anything you post via link as you completely ignored mine until somebody else had a crack at it.

I didn't ignore your silly little link, I pointed out to you why it was irrelevant to the topic.

Let's be clear what the discussion actually is, because you're attempting to change it now that the realisation that you're completely wrong has started to penetrate your silly little skull: you are attempting to say that emulation is illegal by repeatedly posting a link to a Nintendo website which does not say any such thing. I am correcting you, and you're reacting badly to that rather than accepting that you're wrong.

Emulation is legal. ROMs are illegal, but it's completely legal for emulators to be distributed.


Copyright /argument.
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#49squatch22Posted 1/6/2013 10:02:03 AM
Eoin posted...
Let me for a moment pretend that you have some intelligence and therefore might be capable of reading the following links and actually comprehending some of them:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_emulators_illegal


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_emulators_illegal

''ROMs unto themselves are also perfectly legal to own, copy, and distribute. These rules do NOT apply to copyrighted material however, and it just so happens that most ROMs are made from data that is still under copyright.''
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#50EoinPosted 1/6/2013 10:02:08 AM
MathewManson posted...
Copyright /argument.

There is no possible interpretation of this lazy remark that does not paint you as being ever more ignorant. I suspect that you are, rather amusingly, trying to suggest that copyright is irrelevant in terms of emulation. If that's the case, then of course you are, as usual, completely incorrect.