Console Launch sales, for a little perspective

#41LinetrixPosted 1/12/2013 10:35:05 AM
The burden of proof is on the person making the argument to cite their source. If they don't cite, they should be ignored.

Except I'm not the one that desperately wants to know if my claim is real or not. It's up for the newcomers ('gamers' that started playing games recently, hence why they don't know anything about the Vita) to learn about gaming history.

The Wii U has shipped 2.5 million units in 2 months. Those are solid numbers.

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#42Sharky8(Topic Creator)Posted 1/12/2013 10:37:23 AM
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#43fhsfootball74Posted 1/12/2013 10:44:17 AM
If you take the August sales numbers of 2.2 million on the Vita and compare them to the 4 million shipped units. Now keep in mind the Vita sold more during the holidays even then with just the August sale numbers the Vita had sold roughly 55% of its lifetime shipped units. Add in the the holiday sales and it likely pushes it to 70-75%. Which is not an unusual number by any means.
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#44ynniPosted 1/12/2013 10:44:29 AM
CrimzonHead posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/65103052


Hardware and software in Europe is a lot more expensive. 300 or 350 is $483 or $466 respectively. In Europe developers and publishers don't need huge sales. It's always been this way.
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#45Xeeh_BitzPosted 1/12/2013 10:57:34 AM
Sharky8 posted...
In the first 18 months...

Wii consoles sold: 9.5 million
PS2 consoles: 8.5 million
Xbox360: 5.4 million
Xbox: 5.2 million
PS3: 4.2 million

The Wii U has sold more than 2.5 million consoles in under 2 months.

So in the next 16 months, how many units will Nintendo sell? That's almost impossible to project. But, the point is that in 11% of the time, the Wii U has already sold 60% of what PS3 did in an entire 18 months. Or, in 11% of the time, the Wii U has already sold 26% of what the Wii did in one and a half years.

The Wii U will sell many million units by the time we reach 18 months. It's not Wii numbers or PS2 numbers, but it's not a failure.



Launch console sales: http://kotaku.com/5010214/nintendo-wii-has-highest-software-sales-for-first-18-months

Other sales figure data to verify:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_u
(and wiki entries for all other consoles)
Plus: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/
Plus: direct reading of quarterly sales reports from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft


or it could sell 1 million more and die off

Include the Gamecube numbers, it's launch was larger than most launches, at almost 600k sold it's first week, great first couple of months with around 3 million sold and then, after a year.. only had 4.7 million sales.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/19/year-one-gamecube-vs-wii/

So what does that say? First few month sales = nothing to base anything on
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#46Wiiplayer111Posted 1/12/2013 11:04:03 AM
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
or it could sell 1 million more and die off

Include the Gamecube numbers, it's launch was larger than most launches, at almost 600k sold it's first week, great first couple of months with around 3 million sold and then, after a year.. only had 4.7 million sales.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/19/year-one-gamecube-vs-wii/

So what does that say? First few month sales = nothing to base anything on


So the main point is that launch was good. It was. And by your logic everyone on this board who has a topic saying Wii U will fail should be quiet because it could sell one million or several and they have nothing to base their predictions off of.
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#47Xeeh_BitzPosted 1/12/2013 11:09:46 AM
Wiiplayer111 posted...
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
or it could sell 1 million more and die off

Include the Gamecube numbers, it's launch was larger than most launches, at almost 600k sold it's first week, great first couple of months with around 3 million sold and then, after a year.. only had 4.7 million sales.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/19/year-one-gamecube-vs-wii/

So what does that say? First few month sales = nothing to base anything on


So the main point is that launch was good. It was. And by your logic everyone on this board who has a topic saying Wii U will fail should be quiet because it could sell one million or several and they have nothing to base their predictions off of.


You can base the sales based on hype and game releases tho, not by sales numbers because regardless of which you look at , you'll see strong sales at first and then the system becomes the system with the least sold and ends up losing that generation, or a strong sale from the start to finish. It's too erratic to judge it solely on those numbers

However, system hype and game library are things that can be used to judge the system. There is very little to no hype for the Wii U at the moment, of course it's subject to change but right now.. nobody cares and the game library is pathetic, even the games coming out are weak, Pikiman barely sold any more than Bayonette did.

Nobody saying the Wii U will fail is really basing it off sales, the only people using that fallacy is the fanboys
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#48Sharky8(Topic Creator)Posted 1/12/2013 11:13:10 AM
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
Sharky8 posted...
In the first 18 months...

Wii consoles sold: 9.5 million
PS2 consoles: 8.5 million
Xbox360: 5.4 million
Xbox: 5.2 million
PS3: 4.2 million

The Wii U has sold more than 2.5 million consoles in under 2 months.

So in the next 16 months, how many units will Nintendo sell? That's almost impossible to project. But, the point is that in 11% of the time, the Wii U has already sold 60% of what PS3 did in an entire 18 months. Or, in 11% of the time, the Wii U has already sold 26% of what the Wii did in one and a half years.

The Wii U will sell many million units by the time we reach 18 months. It's not Wii numbers or PS2 numbers, but it's not a failure.



Launch console sales: http://kotaku.com/5010214/nintendo-wii-has-highest-software-sales-for-first-18-months

Other sales figure data to verify:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_u
(and wiki entries for all other consoles)
Plus: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/
Plus: direct reading of quarterly sales reports from Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft


or it could sell 1 million more and die off

Include the Gamecube numbers, it's launch was larger than most launches, at almost 600k sold it's first week, great first couple of months with around 3 million sold and then, after a year.. only had 4.7 million sales.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/19/year-one-gamecube-vs-wii/

So what does that say? First few month sales = nothing to base anything on


It says the following:

1. The main reason the Gamecube was third in that generation (compared to PS2 and Xbox) was because of Gamecube's poor third party support and poor number of launch games. While I am no fan of all of the Wii U launch games, the Wii U launched with 250% of the games the Gamecube launched with (29 games vs 12 games. See wiki articles on both consoles that list the launch games). This shows the WIi U is unlikely to repeat the same problems of the Gamecube.

2. The Gamecube did not result in the failure of Nintendo. So no one should predict the Wii U will fail so badly that it will destroy Nintendo. The Gamecube sold almost 22 million units, which is not a failure. It lost to Xbox and the PS2, and the Wii U has a chance that it will lose to the next generation Xbox and PS systems. However, that's not a problem. People have mistakenly been predicting the demise of Nintendo as a home console manufacturer because of poor Wii U sales. However, the numbers indicate that even if Nintendo loses to Sony and Microsoft in this generation (which it probably won't, anyway, but even if did), it will still certainly do well enough to continue as a console manufacturer.

2.5 million units in the first 2 months is strong. Strong enough to probably beat the next Sony and Microsoft systems. But certainly strong enough to keep Nintendo in the console market.
#49Wiiplayer111Posted 1/12/2013 11:14:34 AM
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
There is very little to no hype for the Wii U... nobody cares and the game library is pathetic


Your opinion.
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#50CultOfCiderPosted 1/12/2013 11:16:16 AM
Sharky- your posts are too logical and well thought out for this board. You should join up with the WiiU subreddit.
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