Wii U RAM Bandwidth - Not bad at all

#1140DribylfPosted 1/18/2013 3:29:18 AM(edited)
^yeah, this guy is messing with you, aether, ignore him, don't entertain him.
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#12PendragoonPosted 1/18/2013 6:18:12 AM
That was more interesting than I expected.
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#13The_HyphenatorPosted 1/18/2013 7:44:32 AM
Not entirely surprising. Over the last couple of generations, Nintendo has made some interesting design choices for their consoles, opting to make machines that seem less powerful on paper than their actual performance would suggest.

This is really accented now by the fact that, while Sony and Microsoft appear to be following along in the footsteps of PC gaming and opting for more standard parts, Nintendo is continuing with its more interesting choices and pursuing the development of chipsets that have been otherwise abandoned. This means that we simply don't have enough data to judge how powerful or efficient they are in comparison with the more standard PC components that Sony and Microsoft are favoring; there are no off-the-shelf components to compare them to, and nobody knows the real numbers except Nintendo and developers working on the Wii U, who aren't talking.

In other words, it may not be possible to do a straight-forward performance comparison between the Wii U and either the previous-gen Playstation and Xbox, or their 8th-gen successors, at least not based on the benchmarks. We may just have to wait and see how various games turn out.
#14Petey_MeanisPosted 1/18/2013 8:14:26 AM
cool stuff.
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#15messhiaunedPosted 1/18/2013 8:26:38 AM
shaunme posted...
aether17 posted...
shaunme posted...


Point being? Bandwidth at that speed isn't a problem. It's like saying an i7 clocked at 1.9 ghz is slower than a P4 at 4.0ghz, speed (like bandwidth) isn't all how it seems unless you understand how everything else uses it. (Like the GDDR3 RAM in the 360, NEVER reaches close to "peak" performance, and the numbers are misleading)). Understand how RAM works in the system before you come to conclusions. Now youre gonna tell me that my DDR3 RAM in my PC is slower than 6 year old RAM, yet there are no performance issues with the PC. Are you going to mock the PCs (with "slower" bandwidth)? Because most PCs do use DDR3.


the point is that it is slower.


The main point is that it's not significant, d'oh.
#16SuperShyGuy9000Posted 1/18/2013 8:54:04 AM
interesting
#17MichaeIPachterPosted 1/18/2013 11:11:27 AM
I'm sure the RAM is fine for what Nintendo fanboys want out of it, casual games.
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#18The_HyphenatorPosted 1/18/2013 11:13:36 AM
MichaeIPachter posted...
I'm sure the RAM is fine for what Nintendo fanboys want out of it, casual games.


Wow. You're trolling while using the name of a professional troll. How meta of you.
#19DiscostewSMPosted 1/18/2013 11:19:41 AM
People seem to not understand RAM latency and bandwidth, but I think if people looked at it from the perspective of online gaming, where latency = ping and bandwidth = download speed, then they'd understand why the Wii U's RAM isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be, if bad at all.
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#20icarus231Posted 1/18/2013 11:24:08 AM
shaunme posted...
aether17 posted...
shaunme posted...
aether17 posted...
shaunme posted...
Let’s compare this finding to other systems RAM (we are excluding “exotic” memory such as eDram here)

This is clearly a nice leap from the 5.6GB/s Wii’s bandwidth, but roughly 40% slower than the Xbox360 and PS3.


How about you read the rest of it and notice how little of a disadvantage it actually has, if any. ;)


but it's slower than 6 year old r.a.m


Point being? Bandwidth at that speed isn't a problem. It's like saying an i7 clocked at 1.9 ghz is slower than a P4 at 4.0ghz, speed (like bandwidth) isn't all how it seems unless you understand how everything else uses it. (Like the GDDR3 RAM in the 360, NEVER reaches close to "peak" performance, and the numbers are misleading)). Understand how RAM works in the system before you come to conclusions. Now youre gonna tell me that my DDR3 RAM in my PC is slower than 6 year old RAM, yet there are no performance issues with the PC. Are you going to mock the PCs (with "slower" bandwidth)? Because most PCs do use DDR3.


the point is that it is slower.


The only thing slow here is your ability to understand hardware.