Wii U

Helmsly2008 posted...

Buretsu posted...

Sailor Goon posted...

The state of the Wii U really is worrying. There is no denying that, and its sad reading all the denial from the Nintendo fanboys. I don't want to see the system fail, but unless Nintendo seriously doesnt start pushing out heavy hitters, the system will fail.

The state of the Vita really is worrying. There is no denying that, and its sad reading all the denial from the Sony fanboys. I don't want to see the system fail, but unless Sony seriously starts pushing out heavy hitters, the system will fail.

Good job in proving his point about the denial from fanboys. What is your point anyway? Does the Vita being a failure somehow make the Wii U a success ?

And also, when do Sony fans deny Vita is failing? They may mock someone for bringing Vita up as reassurance, but when do they actually deny it is doing terribly?
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Lack of games. The only games I've played for Wii in the past 5 years were Nintendo exclusives - Skyward Sword, SMG2, Metroid Prime 3, Brawl... can't remember what else, if anything. Nintendo simply makes the best titles for its systems, and as of right now there is no reason to get a Wii U.

Absolutely loved Pikmin 1 and 2 but i don't know if Pikmin 3 justifies a new console. I waited in line for over 12 hours to get a Wii on launch just for Twilight Princes. There is not a must-have title for Wii U, and there aren't any on the horizon. The new smash is probably years off, and considering Skyward Sword just came out I'm not expecting Zelda anytime soon.

Gamecube launched with Melee, a game lots of people still play religiously. N64 had Mario 64.

With even ONE kickass, must-have title, I would be on-board. There's nothing that makes you go "holy god, I need to play that". For me that was Oblvion on the 360 (not a launch title) so I held off on picking up the system for a year or two. This console will be successful when the Nintendo developed games start rolling out. The PS3 had a similar start as I recall - questionable software and insanely overpriced due to cutting-edge hardware (the BD player). In the Wii U's case, I've heard that it's only marginally more powerful than the current gen and that also may be impacting sales. If the graphics were jaw-dropping, that relatively high price tag suddenly seems cheap. Not that I care too much about that sort of thing, but visually sexy things definitely sell. The Wii sold based on innovation and Zelda at launch.

I'm also not convinced that the new controller is useful or even beneficial. Another reason that we need some first-party Nintendo games to fully utilize the thing (see Skyward Sword)
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Buretsu posted...

Nice_Kirbyfan9 posted...

From: Buretsu | #137

Nice_Kirbyfan9 posted...

From: Buretsu | #122

It's funny because Yahoo apparently has no clue that last week is traditionally one of the slowest weeks of the year...

As if that makes the wii u once aain losing out to the other consoles in sales any better.

No, but then that's not as huge of a problem as you "NintenDOOOOOOMED~" 'people' like to try and claim that it is. Let's face it. Shigeru Miyamoto sneezes, and someone would thus try to claim that he was on his deathbed.

Sony is dooooooooooooomed

They're in worse shape than Nintendo, that's for sure. PS3's on its way out, the Vita is doing poorly. I understand they're actually due to make a profit this quarter, but they still have 135 billion in liabilities.

If Nintendo is doomed, then by comparison Sony already has a foot in the grave.

Yeah, that's true. Having a lot of liabilities isn't very good for a company like Sony. The liabilities that they have would nearly wipe all of their assets clean.

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2012/09/08/the-ten-year-decline-of-sony/

It's a bit old, but you can see where I'm coming from.

wisemidds posted...

Nintendo has nobody to blame but themselves, they went after 'the fad crowd' with Wii and turned their backs on real gamers to make crap like Wii Play and Wii Fit. Their disregard for online sees them way behind its competition and they still haven't made half of the back catalogue available for the the eshops. SNES ON 3DS? GCN on Wii U?

I can't blame Nintendo for trying to broaden the gaming market and clearly they were onto something with the massive success the Wii had. Plus, the 'hardcore' chose the PS2 over the GC when you compare the sales of those two consoles, so in many ways the hardcore abandoned Nintendo.

Crimson681 posted...

excitebike64 posted...

Crimson681 posted...

I want to see the Wii-U fail. Because I haven't bought a Nintendo console since the SNES, because I feel like Nintendo betrayed me by making their systems appeal more to little kids. They left the adult gamers, and target pre-teens, and then Sony and Microsoft moved in to fill that void. Nintendo failing in a way would do nothing but prove I was right.

And yeah I really do got that big of an ego to want to see an entire company "Fail" just to prove I was right.

Ah, well that means I might just get some Mario/Zelda games on my future PS4.

The Wii-U reminds me a whole lot of the Dreamcast. Like the Wii-U, the Dreamcast was also released prematurely, and I believe just like the Dreamcast, the Wii-U will just get completely blown out of the water when Sony and Microsoft step up with their next systems. The only difference between the 2 was that the Dreamcast had better games, but failed anyway. Its not looking good at all for Nintendo, and only they are to blame for making a system for kiddies instead of for REAL gamers.

Delusional or a hater? What do you think?

Have you played Nintendoland? Explain to me how anyone older than 6-12 gets any entertainment from that game? Games like that define why I hate Nintendo, they used to make real systems that attracted REAL games. I also liked Super Mario World, and they never made another Mario game since to top that.

Why would anyone older than 6-12 get any entertainment out of Super Mario World?

See, I think most of your thoughts are imaginary and not based on much of anything. Games will change, be it hardcore or casual.

Can't wait to laugh when both PS4 and xbox will have games pushed more towards the casual crowd. All three will have this, and frankly the 360 already has a lot of this.

All 3 will have a mix of both game types.