Wii U using cheap GPU afterall

#1ixoriaPosted 2/5/2013 4:19:08 PM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed

It's like Nintendo is selling CRT TV with the price tag of OLED TV.
#2ADHDguitarPosted 2/5/2013 4:21:02 PM
That's not the impression I got from the article.
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#3GloryChaosPosted 2/5/2013 4:21:29 PM
500 replies. Inb4squatch, etc.

Yeah, the GPU is really cheap. I have purchased more expensive hardware from the 99 cents store.
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#4ElectricKaibutuPosted 2/5/2013 4:25:16 PM
Actually... it looks like it's quite expensive.

One of the reverse engineering guys from Chipworks who did the scan of the chip said this:

"Been reading some of the comments on your thread and have a few of my own to use as you wish.

1. This GPU is custom.
2. If it was based on ATI/AMD or a Radeon-like design, the chip would carry die marks to reflect that. Everybody has to recognize the licensing. It has none. Only Renesas name which is a former unit of NEC.
3. This chip is fabricated in a 40 nm advanced CMOS process at TSMC and is not low tech
4. For reference sake, the Apple A6 is fabricated in a 32 nm CMOS process and is also designed from scratch. Itís manufacturing costs, in volumes of 100k or more, about $26 - $30 a pop. Over 16 months degrade to about $15 each
a. Wii U only represents like 30M units per annum vs iPhone which is more like 100M units per annum. Put things in perspective.
5. This Wii U GPU costs more than that by about $20-$40 bucks each making it a very expensive piece of kit. Combine that with the IBM CPU and the Flash chip all on the same package and this whole thing is closer to $100 a piece when you add it all up
6. The Wii U main processor package is a very impressive piece of hardware when its said and done.

Trust me on this. It may not have water cooling and heat sinks the size of a brownie, but its one slick piece of silicon. eDRAM is not cheap to make. That is why not everybody does it. Cause its so dam expensive."
#5blankempathyPosted 2/5/2013 4:26:17 PM
This totally affects my enjoyment of my games.
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#6FoppePosted 2/5/2013 4:28:11 PM
Look, it's the same topic that has already been posted 10 times today.
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#7OtakuGameraPosted 2/5/2013 4:29:24 PM
Trust me on this. It may not have water cooling and heat sinks the size of a brownie, but its one slick piece of silicon. eDRAM is not cheap to make. That is why not everybody does it. Cause its so dam expensive."

how much would you say it cost to manufacture a wii U then? from chipworks comments he says everything totals to close to 100$
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#8geneticsftwPosted 2/5/2013 4:30:38 PM
ixoria posted...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed

It's like Nintendo is selling CRT TV with the price tag of OLED TV.


Thanks for the repost, amico
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#9DarkZV2BetaPosted 2/5/2013 4:31:57 PM
It's funny because the picture only highlights 160 of the supposed 320 shaders.
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#10PendragoonPosted 2/5/2013 4:33:06 PM
The DF article has already been blasted for taking a few comments from Neogaf and running with them. A good chunk of that article has been debunked as inaccurate. For example, the entire comparison to any current AMD chip is pointless, as stated by Chipworks themselves.
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