Honestly if you think the PS4 is going to be a powerhouse compared to the Wii U

#111R2BDSiPosted 2/9/2013 5:44:26 PM
Pokerkid777 posted...
gameplay>graphics

and both systems will have awesome games


End of Discussion
#112KaishouPosted 2/9/2013 6:02:11 PM(edited)
Consoles by there very nature are low range computers mass produced for a more casual gamer. They are made so that the gamer does not have to constantly upgrade their video card, ram, processor and mobo in order to play the newer and more graphically intensive games. It's also been proven last generation that the mass of gamers do not want to spend a lot of money on their consoles. Who remembers how well the Sony Playstation 3 sold with its initial price tag?

I have no idea what gamers are expecting with the new generation. The top of the line processors and graphic cards at the moment for PC's cost upwards to $1000 dollars, each. Lets not forget they also need a motherboard and ram and storage and a driver. Do gamers honestly think the PS4 is going to pack anywhere near that kind of hardware? PC Gamers have already been playing the next generation of games; and I'll let you know this now; its not much different than the previous generation.

So maybe the PS4 will be more powerful than the Wii U. It can crank up the anisotropic filtering to a higher number. The shader quality might be slightly better. Oh my lord, the anti aliasing, consoles might finally be able to use FXAA quality with SSAO effects!!!! Won't these be fun differences to debate with your friends. I would rather argue gameplay and functionality to be honest.

What am I saying. Basically, with how games are being developed nowadays it wouldn't be very hard to port anything between all the consoles. Games can have many options turned down or off depending on the hardware of the console. When push comes to shove I highly doubt casual gamers are going to notice a huge difference between them.

Besides all that, I really wish the topic of conversation was the innovation of the games and how the big 3 decide to use their hardware to further said innovation. Sorry to say but graphics hardly matter, unless you're a PC gamer. Honestly, even if the new consoles used the best hardware available right now, and decided to create a 3000 dollar system, in a few months time all that technology would be dated and the graphics wouldn't matter again.
#113PHOENIXZEROPosted 2/9/2013 6:05:42 PM
PC gamers haven't been playing "next gen games" because the vast majority of games are being primarily built to run on consoles. And anyone paying $3000 for a PC that runs circles around the current gen or even next gen consoles is a moron. A $1,000 PC from 2011 will still likely do that for the foreseen future given the supposed specs we're seeing.
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#114MathewMansonPosted 2/9/2013 6:06:18 PM
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
xChaosLordx posted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

1.24 GHz Tri-Core IBM PowerPC "Espresso"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Box_360

3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3

3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE & 6 SPEs


So, the 1.6Ghz 8-core CPUs in the next Xbox and PS4 must only be a smidgen more powerful than their predecessors then. Doesn't sound like powerhouse material to me.


8 Cores >>>> 3 cores


Why a console would ever need eight cores right now is what confuses me. Anything more than four would be pointless.
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#115DolphLundgrennnPosted 2/9/2013 6:26:26 PM
MathewManson posted...
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
xChaosLordx posted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

1.24 GHz Tri-Core IBM PowerPC "Espresso"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Box_360

3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3

3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE & 6 SPEs


So, the 1.6Ghz 8-core CPUs in the next Xbox and PS4 must only be a smidgen more powerful than their predecessors then. Doesn't sound like powerhouse material to me.


8 Cores >>>> 3 cores


Why a console would ever need eight cores right now is what confuses me. Anything more than four would be pointless.

How else would they insert all the advertisements?
#116KaishouPosted 2/9/2013 6:27:08 PM
PHOENIXZERO posted...
PC gamers haven't been playing "next gen games" because the vast majority of games are being primarily built to run on consoles. And anyone paying $3000 for a PC that runs circles around the current gen or even next gen consoles is a moron. A $1,000 PC from 2011 will still likely do that for the foreseen future given the supposed specs we're seeing.


Try running an already graphically intensive game with mods that increase the texture and particle effects on your 1080p 40-50 inch television and than tell me you don't need a 3000+ dollar computer for it to run without melting down. I've stated it before, hardcore PC gamers really care about how breathtaking they can games look. Next generation for consoles won't be nearly as good looking as some games can look right now with a high powered system. I was thinking more conservatively with the comparison of maybe next generation of consoles could handle what the Witcher 2 looked like with some settings adjusted.
#117AtalalamaPosted 2/9/2013 6:34:02 PM
Pokerkid777 posted...
gameplay>graphics

and both systems will have awesome games


This.
#118Futomimi7Posted 2/9/2013 7:02:19 PM
I train animals at a zoo. So I don't care which one is more of a powerhouse. What I need to know is which one will balance more easily on the nose of a seal? I, of course, will pick the more difficult one because I really hate seals. Especially Timmy. He thinks he is so special.
#119geneticsftwPosted 2/9/2013 7:08:52 PM
DiscostewSM posted...
Xeeh_Bitz posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
xChaosLordx posted...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

1.24 GHz Tri-Core IBM PowerPC "Espresso"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Box_360

3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_3

3.2 GHz Cell Broadband Engine with 1 PPE & 6 SPEs


So, the 1.6Ghz 8-core CPUs in the next Xbox and PS4 must only be a smidgen more powerful than their predecessors then. Doesn't sound like powerhouse material to me.


8 Cores >>>> 3 cores


And like I said, only a smidgen more powerful than its predecessors if he was going by the Megahertz myth, which he likely was when putting those 3 consoles together. If not, then the Wii U's CPU isn't really that bad as people make it out to be.


I think the "trolls" are modifying the response. Since the next m$ and sony consoles have lower mhz over the current ones.
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#120Overlord HikashPosted 2/9/2013 7:27:36 PM
Futomimi7 posted...
I train animals at a zoo. So I don't care which one is more of a powerhouse. What I need to know is which one will balance more easily on the nose of a seal? I, of course, will pick the more difficult one because I really hate seals. Especially Timmy. He thinks he is so special.


Typical Timmy.
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