More than 50% of Gfaqs things Nintendo might become software only...

#51Citan22Posted 2/26/2013 7:52:58 AM
you'd have to be a massive ignoramus to think a company that dominated console sales last gen, is crushing in portable sales every gen, and owns several of the most profitable game franchises in history is going to all of a sudden stop making consoles.

makes sense though, since half of gamefaqs are, in fact, massive ignoramuses..
#52Cable_mvc2Posted 2/26/2013 7:53:29 AM
icarus231 posted...
Cable_mvc2 posted...
I think there's no question they will. They can't take the massive hits of poor sales like Sony or Microsoft could . Nintendo is a much smaller company that thrives off strictly its gaming consoles.

The handheld market is slowing down and is only going to get worse. A couple of poor selling major consoles would knock them right out, especially when you consider the massive risks they take trying to figure out and innovate new ways to play that might not pan out.



Anyone who thinks this isn't a possibility is just a fool in denial.



Sony will be the first to go.



They have far more assists to bank on then Nintendo. That's not a knock on Nintendo because Sony is very poorly managed, they just have a much bigger company.
#53Fou LuPosted 2/26/2013 7:56:51 AM
You're saying Sony, who makes TVs and electronics, owns several movie studios and networks, need to sell 50+ million consoles to make a profit?

Or Microsoft, who owns Windows, need to sell 50+ million consoles to make a profit?

You seem to be forgetting Nintendo is just a game company, while the other 2 have extra income coming from somewhere else. The PS3 alone was sold at a loss at the start, with Sony's TV sales making up for the loss.
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#54Cable_mvc2Posted 2/26/2013 7:57:33 AM
ballermat982 posted...
90 million Wii's sold.

150 million DS's sold.

Conclusion: Nintendo might become software only.

Anyone else see a problem with this logic?


Ah yes raw numbers out of context. The measuring stick of a fool. Did you miss the part of Nintendo can take far less poor sales then Sony or MS? 2 failed consoles and it would be over for them due to the much smaller size of there company. Nintendo isn't selling Windows, TV's and DVD/blu-ray players, its just consoles. They have a higher probability of going under then either of those two.
#55icarus231Posted 2/26/2013 7:59:07 AM
Cable_mvc2 posted...
icarus231 posted...
Cable_mvc2 posted...
I think there's no question they will. They can't take the massive hits of poor sales like Sony or Microsoft could . Nintendo is a much smaller company that thrives off strictly its gaming consoles.

The handheld market is slowing down and is only going to get worse. A couple of poor selling major consoles would knock them right out, especially when you consider the massive risks they take trying to figure out and innovate new ways to play that might not pan out.



Anyone who thinks this isn't a possibility is just a fool in denial.



Sony will be the first to go.



They have far more assists to bank on then Nintendo. That's not a knock on Nintendo because Sony is very poorly managed, they just have a much bigger company.


They also have a 57% debt to asset ratio. They could also borrow money if they wanted to. They are currently expaning while sony is shrinking.
#56icarus231Posted 2/26/2013 8:01:37 AM
Fou Lu posted...
You're saying Sony, who makes TVs and electronics, owns several movie studios and networks, need to sell 50+ million consoles to make a profit?

Or Microsoft, who owns Windows, need to sell 50+ million consoles to make a profit?

You seem to be forgetting Nintendo is just a game company, while the other 2 have extra income coming from somewhere else. The PS3 alone was sold at a loss at the start, with Sony's TV sales making up for the loss.


Sony could stop selling electronics and still survive.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-11/tech/30386214_1_flat-screen-tvs-sony
#57nonexistinghero(Topic Creator)Posted 2/26/2013 8:03:31 AM
Cable_mvc2 posted...
I think there's no question they will. They can't take the massive hits of poor sales like Sony or Microsoft could . Nintendo is a much smaller company that thrives off strictly its gaming consoles.

The handheld market is slowing down and is only going to get worse. A couple of poor selling major consoles would knock them right out, especially when you consider the massive risks they take trying to figure out and innovate new ways to play that might not pan out.



Anyone who thinks this isn't a possibility is just a fool in denial.


Because it's really not a possibility. Sony might be much bigger as a company, but practically all of their divisions are bleeding money and gaming alone isn't profitable enough to keep the company afloat for too long. Meanwhile, Nintendo focuses on just games. Yes, they do suffer from some losses in recent years, but they aren't bleeding money. The Wii U is sold at a small loss. They're profiting from every 3DS sold. Basically, this means they will profit even if they don't sell that much.

The Wii U should be sold at a profit within a year from now anyway. This is the reason why Nintendo survived. It's not luck, it's just common business sense.

They also have 10 billion $ stashed away in their piggy bank.
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#58STE573Posted 2/26/2013 8:04:41 AM
Citan22 posted...
you'd have to be a massive ignoramus to think a company that dominated console sales last gen, is crushing in portable sales every gen, and owns several of the most profitable game franchises in history is going to all of a sudden stop making consoles.

makes sense though, since half of gamefaqs are, in fact, massive ignoramuses..


Came here to say this.
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#59ballermat982Posted 2/26/2013 8:06:00 AM
Cable_mvc2 posted...
ballermat982 posted...
90 million Wii's sold.

150 million DS's sold.

Conclusion: Nintendo might become software only.

Anyone else see a problem with this logic?


Ah yes raw numbers out of context. The measuring stick of a fool. Did you miss the part of Nintendo can take far less poor sales then Sony or MS? 2 failed consoles and it would be over for them due to the much smaller size of there company. Nintendo isn't selling Windows, TV's and DVD/blu-ray players, its just consoles. They have a higher probability of going under then either of those two.


Fair enough. What I should have said is Nintendo might become software only this generation.

Still I think people are jumping to conclusions about the Wii U. I'm pretty sure every console has a slow start but eventually picks up in sales. This is not new. And also people have been saying Nintendo consoles were doomed since the SNES era and look how that's turned out.
#60Redjoker777Posted 2/26/2013 8:07:31 AM
Cable_mvc2 posted...
I think there's no question they will. They can't take the massive hits of poor sales like Sony or Microsoft could . Nintendo is a much smaller company that thrives off strictly its gaming consoles.

The handheld market is slowing down and is only going to get worse. A couple of poor selling major consoles would knock them right out, especially when you consider the massive risks they take trying to figure out and innovate new ways to play that might not pan out.



Anyone who thinks this isn't a possibility is just a fool in denial.




The handheld market is slowing? Really? The DS was one of the best selling systems ever, just behind the PS2 in some areas and ahead of it in others. The 3DS has picked up and is doing very well right now. You do realize pokemon X/Y is coming out soon, so thats another huge handheld surge by itself.

Nintendo going software only is always a possibility, but not a likely one. They would go handheld only before that happened. Not to mention it took sega years of poor decision making and wasting money to get knocked out. So far we have not seen complete and total bad business from Nintendo.
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