Nintendo stock sees stock rise 11%, highest gain since 2008

#411shadetail1Posted 4/10/2013 2:33:10 PM
Enigma149 posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
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"B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Sony!"

This is how you know the Nintendrones have lost the argument.


You know, in my experience, when one side starts resorting to mockery and name-calling, it's that side that's generally lost the argument.

Also, although it's true Nintendo's stock lost value after the Wii U announcement, you're a) ignoring the fact that this decline has been going on since 2008, even though Wii sales didn't peak until 2009, and b) ignoring the fact that Nintendo's stock has risen 12% since January 1st. It's kind of hard to call a 12% increase bad.


Unless you're a troll. Which that thundercat doofus is. Just put him/her/it on your ignore list.
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#42deathslovePosted 4/10/2013 2:33:50 PM
excitebike64 posted...
chuchumyrocket posted...
excitebike64 posted...
Greater stock value means either more games or more game variety, typically.


No it doesn't.


Yes it does.

If stock holders pull stock from any company, the company has to figure out (scramble) how to improve or suffer more loses. In gaming, that typically is stopping projects to focus on only some projects.

If Nintendo (or any other game company) gets more stock value, they get more breathing room to do side projects that normally would not happen.


Yea..that is completely how stocks work....
#43Nice_Kirbyfan9Posted 4/10/2013 2:36:15 PM
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I forgot how sensitive squatch is.
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#44Enigma149Posted 4/10/2013 2:37:23 PM
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#45thundercat2600Posted 4/10/2013 2:46:04 PM
Enigma149 posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
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"B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Sony!"

This is how you know the Nintendrones have lost the argument.


You know, in my experience, when one side starts resorting to mockery and name-calling, it's that side that's generally lost the argument.

Also, although it's true Nintendo's stock lost value after the Wii U announcement, you're a) ignoring the fact that this decline has been going on since 2008, even though Wii sales didn't peak until 2009, and b) ignoring the fact that Nintendo's stock has risen 12% since January 1st. It's kind of hard to call a 12% increase bad.


A) I did clearly acknowledge that Nintendo peaked in 2007 at 6x what it is now.

B) YOU'RE ignoring the fact that the Nikkei is up 30% since January 1st. When Japan's economy was declining, Nintendo declined far more steeply. When Japan's economy is now growing, Nintendo grows far more slowly.

Kind of hard to call THAT good.
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#46mini_blightPosted 4/10/2013 2:46:35 PM
thundercat2600 posted...
Nintendo announced Wii U extremely early because Wii sales tanked and they needed to keep investors happy. It has had exactly the opposite effect.


It was leaked early. Project Cafe, says hi. Nintendo just decided to confirm it after the fact.

Nintendo's performance in the last 2 years is honestly worse than anybody expected. Only a deluded fanboy could look at this:
https://www.google.com/finance?q=TYO%3A7974&ei=1dBlUdjfHMnaqQGyPA
And call it "good".


Nintendo's performance will always be spun as bad. Even during the Wii/DS days, their high sales were ignored in favor of crying about the casuals. The casuals that also bought the first two Playstation consoles. No one made articles dooming the PS2 as a casualfest when it became obvious those people were buying a cheap DVD player, and not the latest Metal Gear Solid. No one called the DVD playing capability a gimmick. No called the PS4 controller and camera an add-on for the PS3.

And don't cry about anyone bringing up Sony. What did you expect? Sony is in FAR worse shape than Nintendo is currently, yet somehow that isn't considered news to our game journalists and forum experts.
#47squatch22Posted 4/10/2013 2:49:18 PM
mini_blight posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
Nintendo announced Wii U extremely early because Wii sales tanked and they needed to keep investors happy. It has had exactly the opposite effect.


It was leaked early. Project Cafe, says hi. Nintendo just decided to confirm it after the fact.

Nintendo's performance in the last 2 years is honestly worse than anybody expected. Only a deluded fanboy could look at this:
https://www.google.com/finance?q=TYO%3A7974&ei=1dBlUdjfHMnaqQGyPA
And call it "good".


Nintendo's performance will always be spun as bad. Even during the Wii/DS days, their high sales were ignored in favor of crying about the casuals. The casuals that also bought the first two Playstation consoles. No one made articles dooming the PS2 as a casualfest when it became obvious those people were buying a cheap DVD player, and not the latest Metal Gear Solid. No one called the DVD playing capability a gimmick. No called the PS4 controller and camera an add-on for the PS3.

And don't cry about anyone bringing up Sony. What did you expect? Sony is in FAR worse shape than Nintendo is currently, yet somehow that isn't considered news to our game journalists and forum experts.


This.
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#48thundercat2600Posted 4/10/2013 2:52:38 PM
mini_blight posted...

It was leaked early. Project Cafe, says hi. Nintendo just decided to confirm it after the fact.


And this changes things. . . how? The reaction was still extremely negative regardless when it was announced.


Nintendo's performance will always be spun as bad. Even during the Wii/DS days, their high sales were ignored in favor of crying about the casuals. The casuals that also bought the first two Playstation consoles. No one made articles dooming the PS2 as a casualfest when it became obvious those people were buying a cheap DVD player, and not the latest Metal Gear Solid. No one called the DVD playing capability a gimmick. No called the PS4 controller and camera an add-on for the PS3.

And don't cry about anyone bringing up Sony. What did you expect? Sony is in FAR worse shape than Nintendo is currently, yet somehow that isn't considered news to our game journalists and forum experts.


"waaaah I wish people would stop focusing on Nintendo's abysmal performance and instead just keep bashing Sony on the Wii U message board."
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#49Enigma149Posted 4/10/2013 2:52:44 PM
thundercat2600 posted...
Enigma149 posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
^
"B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Sony!"

This is how you know the Nintendrones have lost the argument.


You know, in my experience, when one side starts resorting to mockery and name-calling, it's that side that's generally lost the argument.

Also, although it's true Nintendo's stock lost value after the Wii U announcement, you're a) ignoring the fact that this decline has been going on since 2008, even though Wii sales didn't peak until 2009, and b) ignoring the fact that Nintendo's stock has risen 12% since January 1st. It's kind of hard to call a 12% increase bad.


A) I did clearly acknowledge that Nintendo peaked in 2007 at 6x what it is now.

B) YOU'RE ignoring the fact that the Nikkei is up 30% since January 1st. When Japan's economy was declining, Nintendo declined far more steeply. When Japan's economy is now growing, Nintendo grows far more slowly.

Kind of hard to call THAT good.


You are right about the Nikkei rising faster than Nintendo's stock. However, to say Nintendo's stock "declined far more steeply" than the Nikkei is a blatant lie. The Nikkei plummeted from April 2007 to April 2009, losing 50% of its value; to compare, Nintendo's stock lost only 20%.

Perhaps Nintendo just isn't affected by the overall Japanese economy as much as you'd like to imply.
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#50thundercat2600Posted 4/10/2013 2:58:21 PM
Enigma149 posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
Enigma149 posted...
thundercat2600 posted...
^
"B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Sony!"

This is how you know the Nintendrones have lost the argument.


You know, in my experience, when one side starts resorting to mockery and name-calling, it's that side that's generally lost the argument.

Also, although it's true Nintendo's stock lost value after the Wii U announcement, you're a) ignoring the fact that this decline has been going on since 2008, even though Wii sales didn't peak until 2009, and b) ignoring the fact that Nintendo's stock has risen 12% since January 1st. It's kind of hard to call a 12% increase bad.


A) I did clearly acknowledge that Nintendo peaked in 2007 at 6x what it is now.

B) YOU'RE ignoring the fact that the Nikkei is up 30% since January 1st. When Japan's economy was declining, Nintendo declined far more steeply. When Japan's economy is now growing, Nintendo grows far more slowly.

Kind of hard to call THAT good.


You are right about the Nikkei rising faster than Nintendo's stock. However, to say Nintendo's stock "declined far more steeply" than the Nikkei is a blatant lie. The Nikkei plummeted from April 2007 to April 2009, losing 50% of its value; to compare, Nintendo's stock lost only 20%.

Perhaps Nintendo just isn't affected by the overall Japanese economy as much as you'd like to imply.


Maybe you should look more closely. Nintendo dropped 63% from its peak in 2007 to April 2009. TYO dropped 47% in that same period of time.
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