So is the Wii U a powerful machine or not?

#41cmdrdreddPosted 4/30/2013 2:13:03 PM
bond465 posted...
Beatperson14 posted...
You can't 'hide' potential when we're talking about parts of a computer.

It is drastically underpowered compared to what PS4 and Xbox 720 will be pushing.


This. People take issue with this for some reason. The ps4 and Xbox infinite will have DRASTICALLY better graphics. Get over it.

However, the wii u is slightly more powerful than the 360 and ps3.


Graphics my PC has been able to do for a year lol.
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#42Virus66Posted 4/30/2013 2:25:29 PM
DiscostewSM posted...
Superior to the PS3 and 360, inferior to the PS4 and 720.


This is about as accurate of a description as you will ever get.
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#43shinra35800Posted 4/30/2013 2:34:27 PM(edited)
P_A_N_D_A_M_A_N posted...
You said that there was nothing out that surpasses the PS3. Both these games surpass it with lighting, shadows, textures, and particle affects. Graphics don't amount to much when it comes to a game being enjoyable, but stating that these games look worse is flat out wrong.


Lighting is not even a graphic enhancement. All you gotta do is turn the brightness of your tv up if you want your ps3 game to look bright like a wii u.

Darker shadows is also not a graphical enhancement. It covers up detail lol. And it's just shadows. There is nothing straining on the ps3 or xbox for that matter that could hurt the system just because the shadows are darker if devs tweaked them to be so.

The textures that arent missing LOOK THE SAME.

Most particle effects are MISSING.


Where did I say the games look WORSE!? My whole thing was that the games looked THE SAME or THE SAME with missing effects. Y U NO pay attention?
#44cmdrdreddPosted 4/30/2013 2:40:44 PM
shinra35800 posted...
P_A_N_D_A_M_A_N posted...
You said that there was nothing out that surpasses the PS3. Both these games surpass it with lighting, shadows, textures, and particle affects. Graphics don't amount to much when it comes to a game being enjoyable, but stating that these games look worse is flat out wrong.


Lighting is not even a graphic enhancement. All you gotta do is turn the brightness of your tv up if you want your ps3 game to look bright like a wii u.

Darker shadows is also not a graphical enhancement. It covers up detail lol. And it's just shadows. There is nothing straining on the ps3 or xbox for that matter that could hurt the system just because the shadows are darker if devs tweaked them to be so.

The textures that arent missing LOOK THE SAME.

Most particle effects are MISSING.


Where did I say the games look WORSE!? My whole thing was that the games looked THE SAME or THE SAME with missing effects. Y U NO pay attention?


Lighting is not a graphics effect? Go look up Global Illumination. Lighting can have a big part in making a scene realistic looking. Reflections are done with lighting techniques, shadows are affected by the lighting and having it move and adjust in real time adds too the realism factor and the pop the game will have in motion.

As for shadows, having soft shadows that blend into the environment realistically adds another layer of pop to the game. It makes the world seem more alive. Ambient Occlusion affects the shadows and lighting both by determining the appearance of an object by how easily it is touched by various elements. These may include light, mud, dirt, water, sand, snow etc.
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#45Ghost-inZeShellPosted 4/30/2013 2:52:27 PM
About the same as the PS360. Any power difference is too slight to make any visual difference.

More powerful than the Wii? Absolutely.
More powerful than current other 7th gens? Maybe a little.
Equal power to other 8th gens? Ha-no.

Ultimately it is about the games that the system gives you access to.

The PS4 lacks b/c. It's not an upgrade, it's a replacement.
So they're going to try to replacing a library of hundreds of games with a library of 12 games.

Nothing is "known" about the "720", but if rumors are to be believed, it's going to force some heavy DMR (mandatory always online) and force Kinect onto you, so... yeah. G/L with that.

Exclusives aside, if you only care about power, you may want to consider going to a PC.
The parts are a lot cheaper now than even 4 years ago, and Steam is so convenient and massive.
Access to games from every generation (b/c isn't a problem).
No forced gimmicks (motion controls, ect).
Lots of great free games, like Team Fortress 2, League of Legends, and Minecraft.
#46DarthFloatyPosted 4/30/2013 2:55:54 PM
Compared to what? It's noticeably stronger than the PS360, and about the same amount weaker than the PS4720. None of these are massive gaps. And anything mentioned their pales compared to a fairly powerful desktop ($600-$700+) or a very strong laptop.
#47DemonDog666Posted 5/1/2013 5:46:28 AM
shinra35800 posted...
the response is not just limited to skyrim... it deals with any game, the ability to hold more data, more data = better textures = better graphics without the added strain on the hardware. devs don't use up the whole space to make it look as epic as those, but they still use it to some extent which gives them an edge for ps3 on the subject.


Again yes but again it's not 1 to 1 and gpu effects play a huge part in it as well. "graphical power" is more then textures and textures is the only thing space helps it on.