Sony did not just prove the Wii U is equal to the PS4 *Response Topic*

#21kaiserzero61Posted 7/14/2013 10:08:01 AM
Tuxity posted...
99% of the people on GameFAQs discussing hardware don't know what they're talking about, and this topic proves it.


Yep. Honestly the only reason one would read tech discussion on faqs would be to get a good laugh out of it.

And OP. This is what a bus is:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-DnIwuiQ9rOrja9iOOOXEakKEv6Q_64gRAfnnTuePdhv3_0NZHQ
#22Mavrick588Posted 7/14/2013 10:23:18 AM
He didn't say it was better.
he said it was comparable, and a lot better than most people give it credit for, which is true.

Of course the PS4 is more powerful, the question is how much more powerful.
Now we have more information on the answer to that question, and it looks very good for Wii U
---
"Video-games are bad for you? That's what they said about Rock 'N' Roll"- Shigeru Miyamoto
#23chubbychaserPosted 7/14/2013 11:14:41 AM
941Blaze posted...
This is a response to GodofLaziness' topic referring to this story:

http://playeressence.com/did-sony-just-prove-the-wii-us-texture-bandwidth-is-not-slow/?fb_source=pubv1

I watched the video, wondered what the rest of the video was, and looked for this video, which was the full Mark Cerny talk here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJW5OKbh0WA

To understand the story, if you don't want to watch the whole thing, begin watching at 37:30 and end at 41:30

What actually was said was
-Sony is using a 256-bit bus which allows for 176 GB/s of memory bandwidth
-They could have used a smaller bus and some eDRAM, which would have allowed for 1000GB/s BUT it would have been hard to draw out the power and taken more "time to triangle" i.e. draw out the true power of the console in as little time as possible. So it would have been harder to develop for, meaning, less games, or at least less great games graphically.
-Sony, because it went with a more accessible architecture, now has development times for games *supposedly* around the same as they were during the ps1 days: 1-4 months.
-Sony wanted to make the console as developer friendly as possible, so this dip in power in exchange of developer-friendliness was a must.

According to this article, Wii U is using a 64-bit bus according to this article:

http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2013/01/17/wiiu-memory-story/

and this forum

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=60516977
(just ctrl + f "bus" and you'll find the info)

If this is true, that means that there is even less graphical power on the Wii U.
Now, even if they supplement the 64-bit of ram with some eDRAM, it will affect the ability of developers to draw out the power, and it will take Wii U developers more "time to triangle" meaning less graphically amazing games.

Therefore, as Cerny said in the video, "176 is actually more than 1000"

The Wii U has not scored a victory today. Unfortunately.



Why do u have to ruin it? Why?
Yes, many nintendo fanboy are delusional, but but
---
aaaHAA!! X800 XT PE
#24TheMisfit88Posted 7/14/2013 11:20:21 AM
Only the most delusional fanboys believe the wii u is even in the same ballpark as the XB1 or PS4.
---
Fiend for Life
#25andrea987Posted 7/14/2013 11:39:32 AM
Nobody said Wii U is 'equal' to ps4. Infact, quite the opposite. The whole point of the topic and mainly the video was to prove that Wii U and ps4 have different architectures, which we already knew. What we didn't knew is that tha Wii U architecture allow for more 'graphical power' to be squeezed out of the console, if the devs are not lazy. Ps4 is more dev-friendly, and has more ram. They're both capable of great games, that's all that counts.
Misleading title and topic.
---
Now playing: Dragon's Dogma, Ni no Kuni, Need for Speed MWU, Fifa 13, Sonic Racing.
Just finished: Batman ACAE, Trine 2 DC.
#26andrea987Posted 7/14/2013 11:44:10 AM
TheMisfit88 posted...
Only the most delusional fanboys believe the wii u is even in the same ballpark as the XB1 or PS4.


Only the most pathetic fanboys comes to boards of consoles they don't like to troll. Just sayin'.
---
Now playing: Dragon's Dogma, Ni no Kuni, Need for Speed MWU, Fifa 13, Sonic Racing.
Just finished: Batman ACAE, Trine 2 DC.
#271shadetail1Posted 7/14/2013 11:44:47 AM
941Blaze posted...
DeathSnipe777 posted...
Except no one in that other topic ever said that the WiiU was equal to the PS4, and the other topic's title didn't even imply it.


True, I'm just worried about people not understanding the nature and info of the other topic

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that, but this was still completely unnecessary. This topic is far more likely to cause the confusion you were worried about, rather than clear up anything. It's not like the other topic was difficult to understand.
---
Religion is like spaghetti: either stiff and fragile, or wet and limp.
#28darkjedilinkPosted 7/14/2013 11:54:03 AM
TheMisfit88 posted...
Only the most delusional fanboys believe the wii u is even in the same ballpark as the XB1 or PS4.

Only those who have no knowledge of technology believe otherwise.
---
Gaming is like a pair of boobs - Sony and Microsoft fight over whos boobs look more realistic, while Nintendo is about having fun with them - Walkiethrougie
#29VernnonPosted 7/14/2013 11:56:48 AM
941Blaze posted...
supremeblaster posted...
Maybe you should read the title of that topic again TC....


Once again, I'm just clarifying by putting more info out there
I'm well aware that the title and content of the other topic's posts had no implications of the Wii U being better graphically than the PS4


Yet, you created a new topic to do so. You could had easily done this on the other topic, specially if your concern was that others would misunderstand what his topic was about.
#30TheMisfit88Posted 7/14/2013 12:07:17 PM
darkjedilink posted...
TheMisfit88 posted...
Only the most delusional fanboys believe the wii u is even in the same ballpark as the XB1 or PS4.

Only those who have no knowledge of technology believe otherwise.


Hahaha. Here comes one of Nintendo's biggest unpaid promoters proving my point.
---
Fiend for Life