What happened to fun, innocent, games?

#21thepixelgardenPosted 9/25/2013 7:28:15 PM
There seems to be far less of these , but they are still around if you look. A lot of them are digital. To me it seems like there are a ton more on Nintendo systems than any other (especially retail-wise), which is why I'll probably always look to Nintendo first for my gaming needs (even with their annoying gimmicks).

To be honest... fun, innocent games are all I play anymore. After I got my nostalgia fix from Vice City (I grew up in the 80s) I pretty much outgrew "mature" games. If I wanted gritty, depressing reality I'd turn on the news. I play games to AWAY from that stuff.
#22GameKing59Posted 9/25/2013 7:28:27 PM
This is the social stigma associated with Nintendo. The "hardcore" gaming scene looks upon Nintendo with nothing but mockery, seeing it as nothing more than an endless sea of non-violent, brightly-coloured garbage where nobody swears or bleeds when you hit them. Meanwhile, Sony and Microsoft offer up games where you can engage in massive fire fights, make peoples' heads explode in a magnificent shower of gore and listen to people drop f-bombs like there's no tomorrow. To the "hardcore" crowd, this sort of stuff is seen as "more mature" than anything Nintendo can ever offer.

BTW, I just remembered a video, and I think you ought to show it to your friends. Here's a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2c4aEQ3OU
#23TalentedMPosted 9/25/2013 7:31:50 PM
Only casuals ignore genres or consoles claiming they are too "kiddy".

If you are a real gamer you plan on playing as much as possible. That is what being a gamer is all about. If all you do is play "Call of Dookie" and Halo, well you are missing out and I feel bad for you that you think you are a "gamer".

I actually hate the word casual, but it is the best way to describe someone who focuses on just 1 thing in gaming and calls themselves a gamer. I play board, card, table and have every console since the SNES.... And people think playing Call of Duty makes them a gamer... Pssh.
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#24PUNCHOUT1116Posted 9/25/2013 7:33:37 PM
TC, your friends are teenagers aren't they?
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#25PUNCHOUT1116Posted 9/25/2013 7:41:27 PM
thepixelgarden posted...
There seems to be far less of these , but they are still around if you look. A lot of them are digital. To me it seems like there are a ton more on Nintendo systems than any other (especially retail-wise), which is why I'll probably always look to Nintendo first for my gaming needs (even with their annoying gimmicks).

To be honest... fun, innocent games are all I play anymore. After I got my nostalgia fix from Vice City (I grew up in the 80s) I pretty much outgrew "mature" games. If I wanted gritty, depressing reality I'd turn on the news. I play games to AWAY from that stuff.


I also agree with this soooo much. As someone in his 30s, the last thing I want to do is spend time in a virtual world ripped straight from of the most horrible headlines on the news these days.

I think, as you get older, you start to see things in more of a "world" view as opposed to just only caring about your immediate surroundings. That said, the world is a truly disgusting place, and I would rather play games to escape from that, as opposed to virtually living it.
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#26GameKing59Posted 9/25/2013 7:41:43 PM
Ok, I gotta come clean.

I actually sent you a Game Overthinker episode. Yes, the guy who called Retake Mass Effect Entitled Crybabies despite the fact he never played any of the games. A dick move on my part, of course, but in my defense, it's his early work, episode 3 to be exact.

Still, sorry for not telling you it was The Game Overthinker.
#27thepixelgardenPosted 9/25/2013 7:49:44 PM
Ok, I don't know how to say this without sounding insulting, but just know that it's not meant to be that way…

Being a gamer in school can suck because kids have no idea that they don't have to adhere to peer pressure. They're easily manipulated. When you grow up, get a job, raise a family, you see who your real friends are. And trust me: they don't care whether your a "real gamer" or whether you play "kiddie" games or not. No one argues over which system is better, no one accuses you of being casual because of your tastes, etc. IF YOU HAVE GOOD FRIENDS. Of course, if you have… well, let's just be honest here, manchildren who never emotionally matured, then yeah they will probably spout a lot of the same things you see from fanboys on the internet. If that's the case, do yourself a favor and get new friends.
#28JobocanPosted 9/25/2013 7:51:27 PM
thanthen posted...
They're there on every console, most people grow out of them by puberty though.


If you grow out of FUN, you're just a boring person.
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#29manmousePosted 9/25/2013 8:06:35 PM
i think another thing that makes this era different is Sega's background presence.

in the 90's, cartoon games could still be seen as "cool" because there was still an extra represented area that's gone now. the "cool" cartoon.

back then there were still shooters (Doom, Wolfenstein, Heretic, Hexen, etc), rail+light gun shooters (House of the Dead, Virtua Cop), horror games (Alone in the Dark, D, Resident Evil, 7th Guest, etc), and plenty of darker grittier games.

but also, Sega's presence brought out a different type of cartoon game.

you had Sonic, who was a wide-eyed cartoon, but he had a punk rock attitude and tapped his foot and glared at you if you set down the controller, and fought funky robots to a soundtrack of electro-funk-pop.
you had Knuckles (in his Chaotix game) who explored cyberpunk scenes to the soundtrack of electro-jazz.
you had Toejam & Earl, a couple of aliens who listen to hip hop and funk, strutting around their homeworld Funkotron getting rid of fat human tourists.
you had Echo, a dolphin who explored an artsy melancholy labyrinthian oceanscape to ambient music and solved brainy puzzles.
you had NiGHTS, a flying jester who whimsically flew through psychedelic dreamscapes to a jazz soundtrack.

but now it's moe heavily divided. Nintendo's style is on the farrrr end of the spectrum towards light-hearted, harmless, and cute, while on the other side there are extremely bloodsoaked wastelands and gunfire.

of course, there are huge exceptions, especially in the indie scene, and even on Nintendo, MS, and Sony consoles themselves. but for the most part, at the forefront of the mainstream, this holds true. there's no more bridge like what Sega made.

you either have this:
http://media.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/2013/06/Super-Mario-3D-World-1.jpg
http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/K/Kirbys%20Epic%20Yarn/Bulk%20Viewer/Wii/2010-09-15/KirbysEpicYarn_915Screens_05--article_image.jpg

or this:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ry65xg8krxzpng/original.png
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/5/22/1369225842112/Call-of-Duty-Ghosts-previ-001.jpg

without Sega's more funky, cyberpunk, hip style to bridge the gap:
http://ristar-cluster.info/images/planets/space-city/space-city-6.png
http://www.sega-16.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Double-Take-Knuckles-Chaotix-2.gif
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/o7JPinP56Vg/maxresdefault.jpg
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#30ChipChippersonPosted 9/25/2013 9:40:20 PM
thepixelgarden posted...
There seems to be far less of these , but they are still around if you look. A lot of them are digital. To me it seems like there are a ton more on Nintendo systems than any other (especially retail-wise), which is why I'll probably always look to Nintendo first for my gaming needs (even with their annoying gimmicks).

To be honest... fun, innocent games are all I play anymore. After I got my nostalgia fix from Vice City (I grew up in the 80s) I pretty much outgrew "mature" games. If I wanted gritty, depressing reality I'd turn on the news. I play games to AWAY from that stuff.


I get my ''mature'' fix from other entertainment media. When I want a gripping, dramatic narrative I reach for one of my several hundred books or movies. I just find that games that push narrative first have almost non-existent replay value. Trying to replay a game that is very narrative focused is like trying to rewatch The Sixth Sense and still be surprised by the twist ending. And I'm not paying $60 for ''one and done'' games anymore, I can get an infinitely better story in a paperback for a fraction of the price. Most of these ''innocent'' games still remember that they're games and narrative takes a back seat.
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