Good god! The prices of SNES, and NES games are outrageous!

#81DrumguyPosted 10/11/2013 9:19:45 AM(edited)
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)
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#82robomagonPosted 10/11/2013 9:20:44 AM
Drumguy posted...
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)


I'm still unaware. You haven't cited any law.
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#83DrumguyPosted 10/11/2013 9:28:55 AM
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)


I'm still unaware. You haven't cited any law.


Do I really have to cite the law directly? I studied copyright in college - so I'm confident in what I know.

Honestly if you need that much assurance - call a lawyer.
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#84robomagonPosted 10/11/2013 9:33:43 AM
Drumguy posted...
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)


I'm still unaware. You haven't cited any law.


Do I really have to cite the law directly? I studied copyright in college - so I'm confident in what I know.

Honestly if you need that much assurance - call a lawyer.


Yes, you do.

Maybe you missed this earlier in the thread, so I'll post it again.

From the US Copyright Office:

"Can I backup my computer software?
Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
you are the legal owner of the copy; and
any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred."
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html
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#85squatch22Posted 10/11/2013 9:38:54 AM
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)


I'm still unaware. You haven't cited any law.


Do I really have to cite the law directly? I studied copyright in college - so I'm confident in what I know.

Honestly if you need that much assurance - call a lawyer.


Yes, you do.

Maybe you missed this earlier in the thread, so I'll post it again.

From the US Copyright Office:

"Can I backup my computer software?
Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
you are the legal owner of the copy; and
any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred."
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html


So any copy is for archive purposes ONLY.
In other words, can't be played or used with an emulator.
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#86robomagonPosted 10/11/2013 9:46:58 AM
squatch22 posted...
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
robomagon posted...
Drumguy posted...
Sigh... Please read the thread before posting.

I did. I was replying to your above post. I understand what this topic is about.

I am unaware of any laws restricting ownership of copiers.

and now you're aware. :)


I'm still unaware. You haven't cited any law.


Do I really have to cite the law directly? I studied copyright in college - so I'm confident in what I know.

Honestly if you need that much assurance - call a lawyer.


Yes, you do.

Maybe you missed this earlier in the thread, so I'll post it again.

From the US Copyright Office:

"Can I backup my computer software?
Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
you are the legal owner of the copy; and
any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred."
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html


So any copy is for archive purposes ONLY.
In other words, can't be played or used with an emulator.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/117

(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy.— Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.

Would you please take the time and read through the thread before continuing. I really don't want to repeat the exact same argument.
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#87squatch22Posted 10/11/2013 9:48:40 AM
Quoting 2 conflicting sources to try be right.
Pick 1 and stick with it. Lol
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#88segagamerPosted 10/11/2013 9:58:43 AM
poo111111111111 posted...
I completely agree with the overpricing. I mean it ONLY costs £200 for Earthbound on the SNES. Even the likes of Mario, Metroid and Zelda go anywhere from £10-£25 on the console.

Whereas only the Wii U console they're all about £6 or so.

As much as I love having the cart forms in this day and age it's commonly more expensive to go this route. Unless you have a local retro shop that does them for less.



So yeah. Damn Nintendo for making these games cheaper than the alternatives! DAMN YOU!


True, But these games should still be cheaper.

Sega genesis games are $3 each on Steam.
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#89robomagonPosted 10/11/2013 10:04:07 AM
squatch22 posted...
Quoting 2 conflicting sources to try be right.
Pick 1 and stick with it. Lol


Fine. The first link was a FAQ. Here's the actual law from copyright.gov.

Exclusive rights of the copyright holder.
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#106

And the limitations on those rights that make emulation legal.
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#117
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#90squatch22Posted 10/11/2013 10:08:10 AM
See that? Thats goalposts being moved.
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