Why do people argue that Smash Bros isn't a fighting game?

#11GrizzmeisterPosted 7/29/2014 6:14:27 PM
Super Smash Bros. is to fighting what Mario Kart is to racing.

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#12theFAKEsheridanPosted 7/29/2014 6:14:40 PM
Iokua posted...
It's not. Smash, by its very nature, is a party game.


Pretty much this.
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#13n00bsaib0tPosted 7/29/2014 6:22:25 PM
TomoEK9 posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
If Smash isn't a fighter for not being "traditional" then neither are any of the beloved Marvel games.

Oh and Guilty Gear Isuka wasn't a fighter either because it's 1v1v1v1. Hell, Guilty Gear breaks standard juggle rules in general and has crazy air combos and relaunches like Marvel. Guilty Gear isn't a fighter, which means Blazblue isn't either.


wat.

Marvel may have teams of 3 characters but the core game is 1v1 as in 1 player versus 1 player.

Isuka barely qualifies as a fighting game and was their attempt to branch out into a more party style game like Smash Bros.

There is no such thing as "standard air juggling" so I don't know what kind of garbage you are trying to pull from your ass.


Marvel took the game from the ground with juggle rules to the air and if it hits it works. Guilty Gear is the same way. Juggle rules are pretty simple in concept and if you don't see that Marvel and Guilty Gear don't have them then you simply don't know what juggling is.

And Marvel not being a traditional fighter had nothing to do with teams. I never once said anything about that. And you say I'm pulling things from my ass.
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#14Granadico_Posted 7/29/2014 6:27:45 PM(edited)
It is, its just not traditional.
Just like Splatoon is a TPS
Pikmin is an RTS
Metroid Prime is an FPS
etc
They're just not traditional, they put their own spin on things
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#15TomoEK9Posted 7/29/2014 6:26:15 PM
n00bsaib0t posted...

Marvel took the game from the ground with juggle rules to the air and if it hits it works. Guilty Gear is the same way. Juggle rules are pretty simple in concept and if you don't see that Marvel and Guilty Gear don't have them then you simply don't know what juggling is.

And Marvel not being a traditional fighter had nothing to do with teams. I never once said anything about that. And you say I'm pulling things from my ass.

I never said they didn't have jugglng, I said there is no such thing as "standard juggling rules". This is something you made up entirely since every game handles juggling mechanics differently.

You made the implication that Marvel isn't a fighting game. Since your argument of "standard juggling rules" is made up and has zero merit, you may think that having multiple characters may discount it. As I said, its still 1v1.

Anyway you slice it, Marvel games are traditional fighters, Smash bros is not.
#16donkeyjackPosted 7/29/2014 6:28:11 PM
Because Brawl exists.
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#17CubeTVPosted 7/29/2014 6:29:00 PM
Smash Bros. 64/Melee/4 is a party game with the hidden depths of a fighter. So it's both a fighter and a party game.

Not counting Brawl since it can't do either right.
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#18n00bsaib0tPosted 7/29/2014 6:34:35 PM
TomoEK9 posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...

Marvel took the game from the ground with juggle rules to the air and if it hits it works. Guilty Gear is the same way. Juggle rules are pretty simple in concept and if you don't see that Marvel and Guilty Gear don't have them then you simply don't know what juggling is.

And Marvel not being a traditional fighter had nothing to do with teams. I never once said anything about that. And you say I'm pulling things from my ass.

I never said they didn't have jugglng, I said there is no such thing as "standard juggling rules". This is something you made up entirely since every game handles juggling mechanics differently.

You made the implication that Marvel isn't a fighting game. Since your argument of "standard juggling rules" is made up and has zero merit, you may think that having multiple characters may discount it. As I said, its still 1v1.

Anyway you slice it, Marvel games are traditional fighters, Smash bros is not.


Marvel plays nothing like your traditional fighters. It's nothing like SF, MK, KOF, AOF, FF, SS, etc. Its not even remotely a traditional fighter.

If Marvel is a traditional fighter, so is Smash.

But neither is a traditional fighter. Both are still fighting games though.
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#19FeiBenaresPosted 7/29/2014 6:38:58 PM
Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm series are not fighting games too. ;P
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#20TomoEK9Posted 7/29/2014 6:39:00 PM
n00bsaib0t posted...

Marvel plays nothing like your traditional fighters. It's nothing like SF, MK, KOF, AOF, FF, SS, etc. Its not even remotely a traditional fighter.

If Marvel is a traditional fighter, so is Smash.

But neither is a traditional fighter. Both are still fighting games though.


No and no.

By your ill-conceived logic, since none of those games play like each other, none of them are traditional fighters.

What makes a traditional fighter?
-1v1 combat
-health bars
-round counters

Those are the standards for every fighting game you just listed right there, along with games like Tekken and Virtua Fighter.

Something Smash Bros. does not have in common with any game on that last.

Think before you make an asinine argument.