Poll: add bots to map creator

#11usmovers_02Posted 2/21/2012 4:07:14 PM
If you're making maps in 10 minutes you're making bad maps that don't play well W/O AI. Any of the good maps out there realistically take a MINIMUM of ten hours to make. Making decent AI would likely add at least 50% to that total.

Also bare in mind that multiplayer maps are generally small portions of singleplayer levels. To make a good singleplayer level with working AI would take weeks if not months.
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#12campersniperPosted 2/22/2012 4:26:34 PM
no bots in map creator = rental.
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#13drewpot2001Posted 2/22/2012 5:54:41 PM
There's not going to be bots, unless they let you let program AI paths and such, which I highly doubt they'll do.

There's no way the AI will be smart enough to traverse the crazy **** people will make. Pathways and other things would need to be programed into each map.
#14mastershakezPosted 2/24/2012 7:18:00 PM

I'm unclear on what the TC is asking. Do you mean bots, or AI to make single player maps?

Bots I could care less about, they just get boring incredibly fast. AI on the other hand is something I think should of been added a long time ago. I really hate excuses like "We can't because the AI will get stuck on maps that aren't thought out". I don't care about the 95% of crappy maps out there that would use it wrong, I care about the ones that are actually well made. Give me the tools, I'll make it work(and I know others will too).

#15usmovers_02Posted 2/24/2012 9:57:50 PM
I agree with you mastershakez, but I think you're a tad confused. "Bots" and "AI" are the same thing and as such are both equally challenging to do right. When you say "Bots", what do you mean?
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#16mastershakezPosted 2/26/2012 10:12:54 PM

"Bots" usually refers to multiplayer stand ins used for normal multplayer game types, such as capture the flag. It can also mean AI enemies too I suppose, it's just not used like that often, hence why I was confused. Now that I reread it, it does sound like he meant the ladder, so my mistake.

#17usmovers_02Posted 2/27/2012 6:48:17 AM
It's all good ;)

Don't forget though, that even multiplayer bots require AI to make them work.
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#18mastershakezPosted 2/27/2012 6:24:51 PM

It's the same for both really. The real thing we want is a "singleplayer mission creator" with everything that should entail.