So who's enemy?
Ok so we defeated the convenant, we stopped the flood... Now what? I heard something about Forerunners. How do you think they will be? Are we only fighting Forerunners? Is there different variations of them (As how covenant had elites,grunts, brutes, ect). What do they look like? Also please don't just link a wiki page, I would like to discuss it. | |
It could be the Forerunners. I'm not as knowledgeable as some Halo fans are but from what I understand there were some Forerunners that didn't agree with the activation of the Halo rings and the idea of sacrificing themselves... It is always possible that the spices split, the one side activated the rings and died and the others finding a way to survive the rings, possibly in these Shield Worlds? These Forerunners are probably not so great and seek power and galactic dominance. There are some theories on the precursors returning, but those guys are apparently massive... I don't know how that would effect gameplay or if they would be interesting to fight, as the main enemies at least. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Covenant species come back, in fact I would like to visit their worlds. I don't think the actual Covenant themselves are still around, but they may have had an influence on the specie's home worlds. Although I really hope not, sentinels and machine could be something. And lastly there could be something entirely new. I didn't mention the Flood, I felt their end was a satisfying one, as much as I like them.
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The Flood didn't die. Gravemind was destroyed, which temporarily hampered their intelligence. However, flood still exists in the galaxy and if it ever gets out and contaminates a new planet, they could reproduce a new Gravemind. My bet is on it being The Timeless One. It's possible the Precursor is still alive. I wouldn't be surprised if he had something to do with the Flood in the first place. From my understanding, the Precursors were a type 0 technology-advanced civilization that created the Forerunners. The Forerunners then turned on the Precursors because they felt they were the protectors of the galaxy. They destroyed the majority of the Precursors, with the exception of one (that we know). That's The Timeless One. Then the Forerunners built massive stellar structures and eliminated their warrior-class because they had blind confidence in their technology and were determined to maintain a peaceful stance. That is why they were weak against the Flood when it was discovered. Humanity existed when the Forerunners lived in the galaxy, but they weren't as advanced as the Forerunners. Humanity and some other race united when they encountered the Flood. They managed to maintain and quarantine a couple of planets, but then discovered the Forerunners and met resistance. The Forerunners believed the humans were a hostile and violent species, so they devolved humanity. Humanity was spared because of a Forerunner called The Liberian. Later on, the Forerunners met with the Flood. They at first thought it was a simple parasite, but later learned that it was intelligent and cunning. They created the Halos in order to eliminate the majority of life in the galaxy, in order to starve out the Flood. I don't really understand why the Forerunners decided it was best to activate the rings, but the majority of the Halo series revolves around the fact that even though they activated the rings and destroyed themselves, the Flood managed to survive (they left humanity untouched in a far corner of the galaxy, on Earth). Perhaps they knew the rings would only stall the Flood or they took a gamble and failed to completely stare the Flood. Gravemind was such a manipulator that he managed to convince Mendicant-Bias (I think that's how you spell it), a sentinel created specifically to eradicate the Flood, that he would be better off joining the Flood's cause because it was a utopian future for the world and completely inevitable. The Flood's desire is to eliminate all conscious beings on the planet and turn them into space zombies. --- And if you listen very hard, the truth will come to you at last, when all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll. | |
I wanna say the Didact. I remember hearing in the last terminal on Halo CEA that 343 said (not verbatim) that we will regret something worse than the Flood, and with his mentioning of the Librarian and Promethean platoons I'm certain he is talking about the Didact being pissed off about something (sorry if I'm being retarded but I never did figure out why he would be upset at a "useless" weapon being destroyed). So yeah, thats my 2 cents into this. --- Help bring back Republic Commando! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/914938-star-wars-republic-commando/57002133 | |
I thought about the Didact too, being mentioned in one of Anniversary's terminals... However he is only one guy, isn't he? Unless he has a following of other Forerunners and he is their leader, but wouldn't the Forerunners be way beyond Chief's super solider abilities and even mentally surpass him? Also (for those that haven't seen the HCEA Terminals this is a spoiler) what was that ship that crashed on Halo?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JY0hTS0KSw&feature=related This was never explained, and I don't believe we've seen anything like this in the other games. Even so Halo was destroyed, along with this ship... Plus no one ever came out of the vessel... It is just a huge mess. | |
Famine_10f4 posted... I thought about the Didact too, being mentioned in one of Anniversary's terminals... However he is only one guy, isn't he? Unless he has a following of other Forerunners and he is their leader, but wouldn't the Forerunners be way beyond Chief's super solider abilities and even mentally surpass him?Also (for those that haven't seen the HCEA Terminals this is a spoiler) what was that ship that crashed on Halo?...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JY0hTS0KSw&feature=relatedThis was never explained, and I don't believe we've seen anything like this in the other games. Even so Halo was destroyed, along with this ship... Plus no one ever came out of the vessel... It is just a huge mess. Exactly. Think about it: this whole time Chief has been one indestructible, Covenant-slaying badass: at least, until now. It'd be the perfect thing for Halo. I would love to see him more vulnerable than he was in the previous games. --- Help bring back Republic Commando! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/914938-star-wars-republic-commando/57002133 | |
It would be cool, unless 343 screws it up. I imagine they'll try and give the enemies diversity, if there are no returning foes (grunts, jackals, etc). However I get this lingering feeling that they'll try and replicate enemies from previous games but with a new skin. I would be really disappointed if they made something like a Grunt, an enemy that could be described as the comedy relief and runs away, and made it into a Forerunner... I guess what I'm trying to say is that if we're fighting a new enemy they should act like something we've never seen before. And if it is Forerunners, who are suppose to be super amazing, then that would call for some super amazing A.I which I doubt we'll see. I don't want a fight to be difficult because the enemy has large health bars and powerful weapons, and end up sitting in the same spot like a turret... I would want something agile that would jump off walls and flank you at every turn and outsmart you. I always found Halo's A.I. never to be aggressive, minus HaloCE's Flood. They rarely pursued you, if you left a fight they would just wait for you to return.
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The Didact himself would be able to crush any enemy, he was the supreme warrior of the Forerunner Warrior-Servant Rate. And without the Forerunner council to stop his actions the Didact would basically be an unstoppable force. *Spoilers within Halo:Cryptum*
But his "weapons" he created were the Shield-Worlds, I don't believe humanity destroyed them, plus he even felt regret for his actions during the Forerunner vs Human-San'Shyuum war. I don't believe we will be fighting him but more likely fighting with him to destroy the "Timeless One" and eradicate the flood forever. And I expect many hostile Sentinels and Monitors will be joining the fight. | |
Spoilers and answers ahead. Most info from Primordium. . . . . . The Timeless One and the Captive are the same person, and is a Precursor. The Didact/Bornstellar fusion met with and destroyed it. You learn that the Precursor are effectively an ageless race, having a lifespan of hundreds of millions of years. You also learn that the Timeless One is a Gravemind, and that all Precursors were Graveminds. The Flood is effectively infant Precursors, and the Flood/Precursor are in its own words "one and the same." Installation 07 has 10 Graveminds/Precursors in stasis on it, and that is where the Guilty Spark fragment the UNSC recovered is taking the ship he hijacked, along with all onboard UNSC personell. Because that is where the Librarian is, who apparently did not die. Also, ONI apparently opened and/or conversed with the occupants of the pods that were not Team Katana recovered from Onyx. They refer to one of them informing them of things, and calls it the Bornstellar Relation. So the UNSC may have in its posession as many as three Forerunner. So, the enemy is going to be the Flood/Precursor and possibly Forerunner holdouts as well. Plus, you can assume that the Covenant races will make an appearance, likely as allies of opportunity. 343i won't just leave those iconic enemies behind them. They already set the stage for us working with other races in Glasslands, where Brutes, Humans, Grunts, and Jackals all have a presence on this distant colony world, and maintain an uneasy peace. Even so far as all visiting one city at least. . . . . . . Also, Oedipus, you're massively incorrect about Ghosts of Onyx/Reach back on the Reach forum. Link for your convinience. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960512-halo-reach/61616492 ============ Edit: Also, Didact is not unstoppable. As the original was captured and executed, I doubt the blend of Didact and Bornsteller will fair any better than the original. Also, Humanity was the nigh equal of Forerunner, by the Didacts own words. Also, according to the Didact, the Forerunner had little answer to many of the Human Empire's weaponry, and it was only the fact that Humanity had been waging a second war that things ended the way they did. Did you read the novels? --- FernieODST - Its like watching two giraffes fight; It's completely life threatening and important to them, but viewed from an onlooker its just derpa derp derp. | |
Kite man: This was never explained, and I don't believe we've seen anything like this in the other games. Even so Halo was destroyed, along with this ship... Plus no one ever came out of the vessel... It is just a huge mess. Guilty Spark mentions in one of those page or so short stories in the back on the novels (forget which one) that other races had investigated the Halo's and left, in between their activation and the Covenant/Humanity finding them. Also, to address your earlier post, you are slightly incorrect about the history. The Human/Prophet Alliance was an empire that rivaled the Forerunners. They fought the Flood conventionally, but then invented a gene-therapy cure. They infected a full 1/3rd of their territory, and abandoned it to the Flood which effectively choked to death on them. Simultaniously, they began warring with the Forerunner. At first, the Forerunner were more advanced but the humans still captured vessels and tech, and became their nigh equals. They almost beat the Forerunner as well, but the massive loss in the Flood War in addition to the Forerunner bribing the Prophets to surrender left the humans in an unwinnable position. --- FernieODST - Its like watching two giraffes fight; It's completely life threatening and important to them, but viewed from an onlooker its just derpa derp derp. |

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