Is Halo 4 the biggest disappointment in franchise history?

#61Nintendo_toPosted 11/17/2012 10:59:45 PM
GuitaristMatt posted...
That would be Reach.

=( Reach is a favorite of mine.

Duwstai posted...
From: Nintendo_to | #057
Duwstai posted...
From: GaMeFrEaK316 | #001
we both agree Halo 3 was the best of the series

stopped reading there.[...]


Lol really, I didn't think #3 was bad. I thought Reach was better, but still, #3 had its place until then.


Did you play CE or H2 for any significant amount of time? Serious question.
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Yeah, and they're fine. Even if I did rank H2 over Halo 3, Halo CE was made a decade ago, when people didn't really mind that the Forerunner structures were recycled towards the end. Halo 3 didn't have that sort of repetition, and Halo 4 avoided that problem in their own creative way.
#62DuwstaiPosted 11/17/2012 11:02:15 PM
From: Nintendo_to | #061
Yeah, and they're fine. Even if I did rank H2 over Halo 3, Halo CE was made a decade ago, when people didn't really mind that the Forerunner structures were recycled towards the end. Halo 3 didn't have that sort of repetition, and Halo 4 avoided that problem in their own creative way.

Are you a campaign only gamer?
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#63Wreck_ChordsPosted 11/17/2012 11:03:34 PM(edited)
From: Orange_Apple | #004
4 is the best one.

If we are going only with personal opinion, then in my opinion, it is definitely top 3.

Biggest disappointment goes to Halo Reach imo.


This. Halo 4 is probably second only to Halo: CE, in my own personal opinion. Halo 2 would be at a close third. Also agreed on CoD with 3arc. IW got it going with CoD4, but 3arc has been the better of the two ever since.
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#64DuwstaiPosted 11/17/2012 11:11:02 PM(edited)
People should make it clear whether they are talking about campaign or multi or both imo.

Campaign:

CE/ H4 >> Reach >>>> 3 > 2

Multi:

CE/ H2 >> H4 >>> ZB Reach >>>>>> 3 > Vanilla Reach

imo
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#65Wookie_Is_BackPosted 11/17/2012 11:12:33 PM
IcyBlaze_XZ posted...


http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=15806
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=16208


First link had: The price point has not yet been determined.

Second link had nothing about price.

Would you care to try again?
#66Nintendo_toPosted 11/17/2012 11:14:33 PM
Why so much CoD
Duwstai posted...
From: Nintendo_to | #061
Yeah, and they're fine. Even if I did rank H2 over Halo 3, Halo CE was made a decade ago, when people didn't really mind that the Forerunner structures were recycled towards the end. Halo 3 didn't have that sort of repetition, and Halo 4 avoided that problem in their own creative way.

Are you a campaign only gamer?

Oh, no sorry. (well sort of, hahaha) Again, Halo CE was good *for its time. In Halo 3 I liked the introduction of equipment, brute weapons, and spartan / elite customization, but yeah. I wasn't into online competitive until Reach.
#67CyunPosted 11/17/2012 11:32:08 PM(edited)
From: VoidBeyond | #050
Cyun posted...
From: VoidBeyond | #015
Cyun posted...
Even with low expectations I too was really disappointed. I just can't get over how poorly done the story is and how little risk there was to create something new. As a diehard Halo fan from the beginning it's really disappointing that after the conclusion to Halo 3 and the potential there was to create something new and fresh they still have you fight covenant for most of the game. And there is zero explanation as to why your fighting them, or why they decided to ally themselves with didact. And yes I know they explain that stuff outside the game but that's poor storytelling to not have the game stand on it's own. Also it's downright silly for Chief to be in crosleep for four years and never ask anyone why the covenant are still a threat. And then the music was just super generic Hollywood music with zero soul or personality.


The Didact is a Forerunner. The Covenant worship Forerunners, seeing them as gods. It is fairly OBVIOUS why the sided with him, you don't need to read any of the books to make that connection.

Along with that, common sense tells you that a religion just doesn't die. Did you REALLY think that everyone who believed in the Covenant would just go "Oh, I guess the Great Journey is fake!" once the Prophets are dead? No. The Covenant has been around since 938 BC, they're not going anywhere any time soon. Although, the Arbiter has been trying to get Elites on his side.

LOL At saying the music has zero soul, listen to 117 or Green and Blue.




And do I even need to argue that previous Halo's had much better music? I can't remember a single identifiable piece from Halo 4 because it all sounds like every other hollywood movie and that's something I thought I would never say about a Halo game. Actually I take that back, one piece was clearly plagiarized from star wars so I guess I can recall that.


She said she was surprised that he rounded them up that quickly
Also "I thought we had a truce with the Covenant" He did ask about them, at least twice, in the first mission. They came to the answer that it was a rouge faction. So, they did explain, you just won't accept it.

As a diehard Halo fan, I am very pleased with this. Like another of my posts, I consider this the best Halo game.

Lolwut? They didn't take anything from Star Wars and it doesn't sound like a "Hollywood movie" it fits this Halo perfectly.


Again having one throw away line that neither explains who this new faction is or why their fighting us is poor storytelling. Also don't forget that terrible line "these covenant are more fanatical than the one's we fought before." Um so you came up to that conclusion after fighting them for like two minutes? What makes them so much different to fight again?

Also if this doesn't sound like star wars to you then your clearly in denial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbjA6rB98Yk&feature=youtu.be&t=37m35s

now compare that to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t97u9qmgwN0&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLLszKx7HBl1kQnGjul6S6Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414hGL_n1x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_2HdYRzr1M

and the list goes on and on

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#68stoltenberg11Posted 11/17/2012 11:18:42 PM
treyarch has closed the gap significantly between themselves and infinity ward if not pulled ahead already

i didnt pay attention to its release but i feel like mw3 was kind of a flop
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#69Leitchy117Posted 11/17/2012 11:22:11 PM
Not at all, ODST was definitely the weakest in the series. Campaign wise
2>3>4>1>Reach>ODST in my opinion.
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#70Nintendo_toPosted 11/17/2012 11:33:28 PM
Cyun posted...
From: VoidBeyond | #050
Cyun posted...
From: VoidBeyond | #015
Cyun posted...
Even with low expectations I too was really disappointed. I just can't get over how poorly done the story is and how little risk there was to create something new. As a diehard Halo fan from the beginning it's really disappointing that after the conclusion to Halo 3 and the potential there was to create something new and fresh they still have you fight covenant for most of the game. And there is zero explanation as to why your fighting them, or why they decided to ally themselves with didact. And yes I know they explain that stuff outside the game but that's poor storytelling to not have the game stand on it's own. Also it's downright silly for Chief to be in crosleep for four years and never ask anyone why the covenant are still a threat. And then the music was just super generic Hollywood music with zero soul or personality.


The Didact is a Forerunner. The Covenant worship Forerunners, seeing them as gods. It is fairly OBVIOUS why the sided with him, you don't need to read any of the books to make that connection.

Along with that, common sense tells you that a religion just doesn't die. Did you REALLY think that everyone who believed in the Covenant would just go "Oh, I guess the Great Journey is fake!" once the Prophets are dead? No. The Covenant has been around since 938 BC, they're not going anywhere any time soon. Although, the Arbiter has been trying to get Elites on his side.

LOL At saying the music has zero soul, listen to 117 or Green and Blue.




And do I even need to argue that previous Halo's had much better music? I can't remember a single identifiable piece from Halo 4 because it all sounds like every other hollywood movie and that's something I thought I would never say about a Halo game. Actually I take that back, one piece was clearly plagiarized from star wars so I guess I can recall that.


She said she was surprised that he rounded them up that quickly
Also "I thought we had a truce with the Covenant" He did ask about them, at least twice, in the first mission. They came to the answer that it was a rouge faction. So, they did explain, you just won't accept it.

As a diehard Halo fan, I am very pleased with this. Like another of my posts, I consider this the best Halo game.

Lolwut? They didn't take anything from Star Wars and it doesn't sound like a "Hollywood movie" it fits this Halo perfectly.


Again having one throw away line that neither explains who this new faction is or why their fighting us is poor storytelling. Also don't forget that terrible line "these covenant are more fanatical than the one's we fought before." Um so you came up to that conclusion after fighting them for like two minutes? What makes them so much different to fight again?

Also if this doesn't sound like star wars to you then your clearly in denial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbjA6rB98Yk&feature=youtu.be&t=37m35s

now compare that to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414hGL_n1x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_2HdYRzr1M


Okay. No. I totally get you. I didn't even have to click the other links to make the connection. Its hilarious enough.
I'll just say the game speaks more to fans who are looking for those outside references in the game; much of it is just a reward to those 'insiders.'